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To: unspun; PatrickHenry
Thank y'all for the pings!

I started to read this thread but gave up when I noticed that the author had bundled intelligent design, young earth creationism, and various theology under one title, "fundamentalism". Sigh...

As I understand it, "fundamentalism" was a formal agreement among the major Christian denominations around 1900 with regard to a set of common beliefs. The first among them is that the Bible is inerrant. Others, as I recall, included the diety of Christ, the resurrection, virgin birth, etc.

I am a fundamentalist. More specifically, I believe the Bible is inerrant, that it reveals God truly but not fully.

For me, everything in Scripture reconciles quite nicely with science. For instance, using the Scriptures, relativity and the inflationary theory, I perceive the age of the universe is 6 days at the inception space/time coordinates (Creation week with God as the observer) plus approximately 6,000 years from our space/time coordinates (the era of Adamic man) which is the same as roughly 15 billion years from our space/time coordinates alone.

For any Lurkers interested in my views:

Evolution through the backdoor

Origins and Scriptures


100 posted on 03/17/2004 9:18:09 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; Rachumlakenschlaff
Pinging a friend to your post. Intriguing.... Can you point us to where you specifically dealt with this (or is it easily found)?
103 posted on 03/17/2004 9:31:18 PM PST by unspun (The uncontextualized life is not worth living. | I'm not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate.)
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To: Alamo-Girl
100 Swiss watchmakers/repairmen having a 'big-bang' each time they put a watch back together?

;-)

107 posted on 03/17/2004 10:04:15 PM PST by maestro
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To: Alamo-Girl
I started to read this thread but gave up when I noticed that the author had bundled intelligent design, young earth creationism, and various theology under one title, "fundamentalism".

My guess is that he's not worried about theological precision. What he's doing with the term "fundamentalism" is using it to describe any set of beliefs which teaches that in case of apparent conflict, its doctrines supersede the verifiable observations and logical conclusions of science.

112 posted on 03/18/2004 3:55:49 AM PST by PatrickHenry (A compassionate evolutionist.)
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To: Alamo-Girl
I perceive the age of the universe is 6 days at the inception space/time coordinates (Creation week with God as the observer) plus approximately 6,000 years from our space/time coordinates (the era of Adamic man) which is the same as roughly 15 billion years from our space/time coordinates alone.

Well, that makes as much sense as anything else. As for me, I don't expect Genesis to make perfect sense.

It is widely accepted that Moses wrote Genesis, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. I have never understood this to mean that Moses channelled the Holy Spirit, as a court reporter channels a deposition, verbatim. I understand it to mean that Moses had revelations, saw things in his mind, had understandings provided to him, and guidance when he put it into his own words -- that's what inspiration means to me.

In contrast, the Muslims believe that the Koran was dictated to Mohammed by the Angel Gabriel.

It may well be that fundamentalists believe, as the Muslims do, that God dictated Genesis and Moses took it down verbatim, but you're still stuck with the limitations of the Hebrew language, and the fact that the scribe, no matter how intelligent he was, could not possibly understand everything that was revealed to him.

153 posted on 03/18/2004 8:22:52 AM PST by CobaltBlue
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To: Alamo-Girl
In fact, there is support in the Bible for the belief that God revealed Himself in different ways depending on the understanding of the person receiving the revelation, the ability to comprehend was was revealed. As mankind developed more understanding, God revealed more.

159 posted on 03/18/2004 8:36:12 AM PST by CobaltBlue
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