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To: Cyber-Band; Landru; sultan88
WOW!! My little Visit to LibertyPost.org sure opened my eyes as to how anti-Bush some over there have become!! I love some of the ex-FReepers who've ended up over there, but the place is dominated by too many anti-American zealots, IMHO.

Gettin' too much like the DemonRAT Underground.

SHEEESH...MUD

319 posted on 04/08/2004 2:05:08 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim (Become a monthly donor......"What good am I...if I fail to FReep?!")
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To: Mudboy Slim
"WOW!! My little Visit to LibertyPost.org sure opened my eyes as to how anti-Bush some over there have become!! I love some of the ex-FReepers who've ended up over there, but the place is dominated by too many anti-American zealots, IMHO."

See.
*That's* why I love ya, man.
I always know you'll figure it out for *yourself*, then promptly come back & tell me what I tried telling you.
Just takes a little time for you, is all. :o)

"Gettin' too much like the DemonRAT Underground."

Now there's where we disagree.
Even though I've *never* been to DU -- no really, honest -- I know if I did stop by what I'll find there, why it's there, & the character profile of those who'd frequent such an abysmal place.
They're birds of a feather at DU & in that sense then, they stand for *something* & one gets what they came for there, anyway.

But the other place, "TOS"?
Now that joint's populated by freaks, outcasts, sociopaths, cannibals & misfits --*orks* if you will -- all led by a *Big Kahuna* Dork.

That gang of thieves have no allegiance to anything or anyone but themselves; while, tightly wrapping themselves -- & their narrow minded, tunnel vision view of America, today -- in a flag.
Truly dispicable.

The absolute, positively bottom of the barrel worst of the worst & *that's* what makes it a virtual 2004 cyberspace version of Botany Bay.

DU doesn't eveeeen come close to equaling the stench of the Leper Colony.

...TOS is, the consummate shithole. ;^)

321 posted on 04/08/2004 2:26:44 PM PDT by Landru (Indulgences: 2 for a buck.)
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To: Landru; Sam Houston
It's heatin' up over at TOS...LOL!!

"Still, I don't see our purposes for standing up to Radical Islamic Fundamentalism to be "less-than-honorable."

"I thought we were discussing the war in Iraq. As others have said, it didn't used to be a hotbed of radical Islam. Saddam would regularly and violently suppress any signs of radical Islam in his midst and would be condemned by the U.S. for doing so. It may be now, though."

Actually, we're talking about the War on Terrorism, and the influx of Radical Islamic zealots into post-Saddam Iraq is proof-positive that Iraq is a big part of the War on Terrorism. Hussein allowed any number of terrorists a safe haven within his borders as long as they were not threatening his bloody dictatorship. And Saddam sent cash rewards to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. And Saddam himself committed atrocities on his own people, an unmistakeable example of domestic terrorism.

"The Iraq war was an "optional" one. It was started on behalf of Israel and Big Oil. It is not a part of the "war on terror" and saying it is doesn't make it so."

Of course America had the "option" of not fighting the War on Terrorism at all, an "option" the gutless anti-American Bill Clinton chose to take, thereby leading directly to 9/11. But the Iraqi liberation is by no means on behalf of Israel and Big Oil, to say so is just plain silly and smacks of DemonRAT talking points. To win the War on Terrorism, we have to take the fight to the Enemies of America. Afghanistan was a start, but taking action against the Axis of Evil is integral to our ultimate success. Sure, Iran has more "radical Muslims" per capita, but there is good intel that the moderates in Iran will eventually topple the Radicalists from within. And as for North Korea, it looks like we may be successful in using regional pressure to get that nation following a more righteous path. But to ignore Hussein's brutal role in World Terrorism would only be an "option" if we were to follow Clinton's failed anti- Terror policy. Thank God Dubyuh has more foresight than that.

"Taking over Iraq after being attacked by Al-Qaeda (assuming, for the sake of discussion, that it was Al-Qaeda and not NWO-sponsored black ops) is akin to FDR ordering an invasion of Mexico after being attacked by Japan at Pearl Harbor."

No, it's like declaring war on on the Axis Powers of Germany, Italy and Japan after being attacked at Pearl Harbor.

"Meanwhile the original "hotbed" in Afghanistan is neglected and a warlord named Dostum took over one of the provinces today from the central government we installed. But you won't hear that being discussed because we have "moved on" from Afghanistan. I can only hope that by this time next year, we will have "moved on" from Iraq. And in both cases, we can say we "won" if it makes everyone feel better."

Progress continues to be made in Afghanistan and Osama bin Laden will eventually be caught or killed. Fortunately, with Bush, we've proven that we can walk and chew gum at the same time in the War on Terrorism. Your--and the Left's--apparent willingness to revel in each and every setback as some sort of validation is pretty pitiful. We are winning the War on Terrorism and will eventually triumph unconditionally as long as we don't become gutless, spineless poltroons like Hanoi Jean Kerry would like us to become!!

Stay the course and our victory is inevitable...MUD

328 posted on 04/09/2004 6:43:08 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (Become a monthly donor......"What good am I...if I fail to FReep?!")
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