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To: GOPcapitalist
So you distrust the University of Illinois and the Illinois State Archives on matters of Illinois history.

Distrust my alma mater? Perish the thought. You, on the other hand...If you told me the sun rose in the east and set in the west I would double check.

So the black population as a percentage of the whole in Illinois actually went DOWN between 1840 and 1860 by almost half at the same time when the white population went up. So yeah, I'd say they were pretty successful at accomplishing what they wanted.

Nonsense. According to you the actual free black population should have gone down, as it did in several southern states, not doubled.

92 posted on 03/25/2004 4:10:16 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Distrust my alma mater? Perish the thought.

Then why do you still question that Article XIV existed just as their site says.

You, on the other hand...If you told me the sun rose in the east and set in the west I would double check.

Which is precisely your problem. You refuse to acknowledge plainly observable and easily identified facts because doing so would require you to concede a point to your opponent.

Nonsense.

The last I checked census figures base their calculations on minority group size by percentages of the whole population. It's the statistical standard and its what determines congressional district makeup every redistricting year. They do that because numerical growth in any given minority group is expected. It's the size of that growth in relation to all the others that matters though, and in Illinois the free black population shrunk as a percentage of the whole by almost half.

According to you the actual free black population should have gone down, as it did in several southern states, not doubled.

To date you have offered only a tiny handful of southern states where it went down. One, Louisiana, had complex and unique legal definitions of what constituted blacks, making fluctuations in the numbers frequent from year to year based simply on who was defined as black. The other two, Arkansas and Mississippi, had virtually no significant population of free blacks to begin with. They numbered in the hundreds and weren't a significant group in those states. Thus a fluctuation is statistically meaningless. Complaining that they declined in the 1860 census is about like complaining that the number of Eskimos declined in the most recent census for Morrocco.

94 posted on 03/25/2004 12:16:14 PM PST by GOPcapitalist
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