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To: 4ConservativeJustices
Just as the Northern states were rife with their own Black Codes, long before 1865.

Not denied, but if you were a Yankee then GOP would be calling a tu quoque alert on your ass. But since you're a reb then you fall under the alternate definition of the term. Regardless, Northern pre-war Black Codes were also matched in severity by pre-war southern Black Codes which prevented free blacks in virtually all southern states from living near, competing with, travelling among, or even associating with southern whites and were meant to keep blacks in what the overwhelming majority of southerners saw as their proper place, in bondage. Most southern states had laws on their books forbidding free black emigration into the state, or from freeing the existing slave population. So the Black Codes that you blame on them devil Yankees had a long and honorable tradition on southern society. It was, in all respects, a 'sothern thang'.

46 posted on 03/22/2004 8:57:13 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Not denied, but if you were a Yankee then GOP would be calling a tu quoque alert on your ass.

Nope. That is where one attempts to excuse another by stating that the other did it as well, which excuses the actions of the first.

I do not deny the south's complicity, but pointed out the northern historical record is rife with "Black Laws" - it was not just a southern thing. It wasn't even an American thing - some African villages were comprised of up to 75% slaves.

...pre-war southern Black Codes which prevented free blacks in virtually all southern states from living near, competing with, travelling among, or even associating with southern whites and were meant to keep blacks in what the overwhelming majority of southerners saw as their proper place, in bondage.

Huh???? "free blacks" ... "their proper place, in bondage"??

Most southern states had laws on their books forbidding free black emigration into the state, or from freeing the existing slave population.

Yall didnt want them, nor did you want them in the territorries. Where were they to go?

47 posted on 03/22/2004 9:08:37 AM PST by 4CJ (||) OUR sins put Him on that cross - HIS love for us kept Him there. (||)
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