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To: F16Fighter
"(carefull here, do we really wish to advocate censorship?)"

In SOME cases, YES -- don't we??

No we don't

"Real simple -- Is 'public nudity' "free speech" OR is it's restriction merely "censorship"? Same issue regarding public sex.

Don't change the subject, public nudity and public sex have nothing to do with the Stern issue.

IF there are, should a "community" or the whole community (federally speaking) have the right to establish a standard?

Federally, the First and Tenth Amendments answer your question. Locally, that is another issue, but has nothing to do with the FCC and congress.

Amsterdam? hardly, but if we are honest and use our common sense, we can see that personal freedom and personal responsibility are both being eroded at am alarming pace.

I support both your rights and mine, not only as it applies to the Second Amendment, but all of our God given Freedoms.

Using the FCC to silence a voice of political dissent is wrong.

116 posted on 03/18/2004 2:11:14 PM PST by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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To: WhiteGuy
"Public nudity" CAN be defined as "free speech" -- just as puking on a canvas CAN be defined as "art." Isn't "free speech" in the eye of the beholder -- or rather the ear of the beholder?

"Federally, the First and Tenth Amendments answer your question. Locally, that is another issue, but has nothing to do with the FCC and congress."

The FCC and other industries have regs. Just because they failed to properly enforce them yesterday is no reason NOT to enforce them today.

And while "local" and state decency standards and code enforcement are STILL valid, the First Amendment is now what the courts say it is depending upon the interpretation of say -- the Ninth Circuit. Or haven't you gotten the memo? It's a "living, breathing Constitution."

"Amsterdam? hardly, but if we are honest and use our common sense, we can see that personal freedom and are both being eroded at am alarming pace."

YES, "Amsterdam" -- the place which epitomizes freedom and personal responsibility run amok. The "freedom" to legally indulge in ALL forms of drugs, sex with animals, minor sex, prostitution in Macy's front window, etc.

Is this what you would really consider "freedom"? At the price of moral and societal anarchy and chaos? Is this the end game that really engages "common sense"?

119 posted on 03/18/2004 3:58:43 PM PST by F16Fighter
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