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Election Returns web Site- Illinois Primary
week-TV ^ | 16 Mar 2004

Posted on 03/16/2004 2:16:55 PM PST by Amish

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To: LandOfLincolnGOP; NormalGuy; dfergu7477; TheRightGuy; cfrels; Chi-townChief; chicagolady; #3Fan; ...
I'm not sure how you can be so confident. Obama is widely admired....

LLGOP, it will take nearly a miracle (or something very much the opposite) to beat Obama.

61 posted on 03/17/2004 11:19:41 AM PST by unspun (The uncontextualized life is not worth living. | I'm not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate.)
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To: Steve_Stifler
Well, it looks like Jack Ryan is the front-runner for now. Barak Obama's large victory shows he's not a lightweight, but unless Ryan's divorce secrets are grevious, he's not likely to win. Obama's victory is disproportionately in Chicago.

These are the 'Rat primary resuls OUTSIDE OF COOK COUNTY:

Obama 191,116 (37%), Hynes 171,696 (33%), Hull 97,435 (19%), Pappas 30,445 (6%), Chico 13,054 (2%), Skinner 11,332 (2%), Washigton 6,204 (1%).
62 posted on 03/17/2004 3:24:16 PM PST by Clintonfatigued
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To: JohnnyZ
IL is a tossup seat now..it leaned RAT before Obama won
63 posted on 03/17/2004 4:57:04 PM PST by KQQL (@)
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To: LandOfLincolnGOP
The seat is a tossup ...Ryan doesn't need GOP's money.....
He's got the $$$ to win the race.

Obama father side is Kenyan abd alleged muslim from what I gather, that wouldn't play well with voters outside Chicago.


go check his site and read his isuse statements and you will see that he's a Teddy Kennedy Liberal



64 posted on 03/17/2004 5:08:35 PM PST by KQQL (@)
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To: KQQL
Illinois like liberals. I suspect Obama is the favorite. We shall see.
65 posted on 03/17/2004 7:51:48 PM PST by Torie
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The seat is a tossup ...Ryan doesn't need GOP's money.....

I hope you're right, but I have a hard time imagining Obama losing this one, particularly if the GOP gives up on Illinois in the Presidential race. The numbers outside Chicago are misleading... most polls I've seen suggest that Obama's problem downstate isn't that people don't like him, it's that they don't know him. That's all about to change.

And I think the Muslim angle is a non-starter. Obama is a very active Christian churchgoer. His father (who I don't actually think was muslim, although I don't know) has been out of his life since he was two.

66 posted on 03/17/2004 9:17:44 PM PST by LandOfLincolnGOP
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To: LandOfLincolnGOP
LOL, You are right. Obama was and is the Dem's strongest candidate.

But the real problem is the sorry state of the R PARTY.
Obama 640,000 votes. ALL Republicans combined 634,000.
Jack Ryan got 37% of Republican vote with 234,000.
O'Malley lost with 255,000 2 years ago in an off year election. The Republican turnout was terrible. Due to the corruption image surrounding the Republican Party in Illinois, large numbers don't want to be known by that label.

Obama is the Dem who can most effectively run a good government, anti-corruption campaign and claim the high road over any Republican.

Until Illinois Republicans put the corruption, and the corrupt party officials, behind them the Party is toast. That leaves each candidate on his own without a party... sort of like a Jesse Ventura candidate.
67 posted on 03/18/2004 11:34:11 AM PST by NormalGuy (If not Normal, Spin it)
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