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You know after actually watching Chalabi on 60 Minutes the other night, it boggles my mind that a war was called for based on anything this man said. And after reading this list of what he claimed, it's even further amazing that anyone with half a brain cell would continue to believe him. I wonder, when whoever is still looking 20 years from now (probably still at our expense) and still doesn't find anything, will they still believe?

That defector complained in The Washington Post column that CIA interrogators in Ankara had treated him "dismissively" earlier that week.

Perhaps because those that are actually involved in intelligence moreso than PNAC talking points were able to see through him?

Were the people, bright clearly capable men like Cheney, Perle, Feith... that allowed Chalabi to influence the process duped or were they willing dupers?

If they were duped the should resign out of respect for the institutions of our country but if its the latter, then what we are talking about is the supreme act of anti-patriotism and disrespect for the nation. No matter what, Watergate was a Third Rate burglary, but this was the process by which the nation went to war we are talking about, not a re-election battle. I cannot fathom simply saying so what without even asking for a simple remedy like a ceremonial dismissal or resignation.

Most likely this stuff will fade after 11/2004 and the focus will become geopolitics which important court historians will debate and write papers and secure government appointments when a Blue or a Green gets elected. The Tonkin Gulf incident and the fact that FDR knew a Pearl Harbor was coming but did nothing to prepare Hawaii become mere footnotes to the "big picture" the court historians will be paid by the New York publishing houses to publish.

And yet perhaps with God's grace academics will say 20 years from now, that here, "after a century of expansion by military conquest, the empire ebbed. The American people, for a variety of reasons, mostly economic, decided it wasn't worth it." Our generation will have accomplished what the three previous, (dare I say longer?)were unable to do in their lifetimes and perhaps they will even say that it was the GenXers who are the rightful heirs of the Republic the forefathers planned.