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Scientists Begin to Question Benefit of 'Good' Cholesterol
NY Times ^ | March 15, 2004 | Gina Kolata

Posted on 03/15/2004 11:23:07 AM PST by neverdem

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1 posted on 03/15/2004 11:23:08 AM PST by neverdem
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To: fourdeuce82d; Travis McGee; El Gato; JudyB1938; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Robert A. Cook, PE; lepton; ...
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2 posted on 03/15/2004 11:24:26 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
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3 posted on 03/15/2004 11:25:46 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: neverdem
And they don't even get into homocystene.
4 posted on 03/15/2004 11:26:57 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: neverdem
They never want to look at the big picture.
5 posted on 03/15/2004 11:27:35 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: neverdem
Junk science to the rescue ! HAH!

If you study water long enough, you will find that IT CAN KILL!!

BAN WATER!! BAN SALT!! BAN FOOD!! AIR!! etc etc etc...

Stupidity knows no bouds.
6 posted on 03/15/2004 11:30:05 AM PST by steplock (http://www.gohotsprings.com)
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To: steplock
What they consider fact changes enough that I will just enjoy my T-bones and Hershey's with the understanding that they dont really that know much.
7 posted on 03/15/2004 11:32:14 AM PST by No Blue States
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To: No Blue States
spellchecker have should that caught.
8 posted on 03/15/2004 11:32:54 AM PST by No Blue States
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To: steplock
Aaack! We're all gonna die! (eventually, of something)
9 posted on 03/15/2004 11:35:01 AM PST by .38sw
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To: neverdem
I'm confused. I'm 40 and have tried to follow all of the rules for a healthy heart. Four weeks ago I had a heart attack. I guess I start eating cardboard.
10 posted on 03/15/2004 11:35:06 AM PST by TankerKC (Clogged Arteries and Still Smilin'!)
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To: nickcarraway
And they don't even get into homocystene.

I am not opposed to assistance for homosexuals, I just dont want them getting married.

11 posted on 03/15/2004 11:37:56 AM PST by Paradox (I have NO idea..)
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To: neverdem
There is a "big picture" that consists of many variables. Scientific American magazine had a nice big article on it. You can't just look at these variables in isolation. We still dont know what is going on exactly.
12 posted on 03/15/2004 11:39:25 AM PST by Paradox (I have NO idea..)
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To: No Blue States
nice comment. here is one for the junk people to ponder. research at UT Southwestern into protein has found that it can eat FAT. An injection into mice caused them to lose weight. Aktins will be smiling from someplace. The beef guys will be selling more too.
13 posted on 03/15/2004 11:44:32 AM PST by q_an_a
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To: nickcarraway
And they don't even get into homocysteine.

I'm sure it's being studied. But there's not much money to be made treating homocysteine levels as the treatment is folic acid, a vitamin. Coronary artery disease is a work in progress.

14 posted on 03/15/2004 11:50:54 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: No Blue States
and Hershey's

Chocolate is good for you! I've always said it is medicine but no one believed me :-) In addition to antioxidants it also has marijuana-like compounds, ha!

My great aunt is 97 years old. She spent her entire life eating whole eggs every day, whole milk, cream, butter and the FAT off meat. Never had a heart attack. Just recently she experienced a minor stroke and some TIAs. However, she did not grow up eating fast food or boxed food. Everything was always homemade and natural. There may be something to that in addition to outstanding genetics.

15 posted on 03/15/2004 11:56:47 AM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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One of the best things ive found to burn my fat is to climb a mountain, or even a hill...walk a few miles. Its good for the soul too.

My unscientific opinion is that if one drinks enough water, avoid gobs of pure animal fat, then is active doing something, anything to get the heart working..then one can eat just about whatever the like, just avoid tequila.

But im only 40 so the wisdom of my plan is dependant on my longevity. Now, if i could just stay off cigs..hehe

16 posted on 03/15/2004 11:57:44 AM PST by No Blue States
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To: neverdem
Other things to worry about:

Asteroid Impact, Same Sex Marriage, Massive gamma ray burst from an outside the solar system event, BSE nvCJD, SARS, Smallpox, Ebola ,Flu- (human, bird, swine, duck, chicken), Salmonella, Carbs, Fat, Protein, Terrorists, Anthrax, Earthquakes, Volcanoes, Too little ozone, Too much ozone, Global warming, Global cooling, Global Warming Chaos, Pesticides, Deer ticks, Nerve gas, Dirty bombs, Haliburton, SUVs, Guns, Acid rain, Too much Rain, Too little Rain, Nuclear power, Non-nuclearpower, Nuclear war, Conventional war, Wind Turbines shredding endangered birds, Obesity, Starvation, BCS, The Yankees with A’Rod, NCAA Basketball Tournament Selections, Pit bulls, Rottweilers, German Shepherds, Huskies, Alaskan Malamutes ,Doberman Pinschers, Chow Chows, Great Danes, St. Bernards, Akitas, green ketchup, MRSA (Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus), Pet spiders, Yard Sale Congestion, Red King Crabs, Shadow people, Cattle mutilations, Junk Science, Supersize fries, ”Our worst fears were confirmed”, steroids in baseball, microwave popcorn, HIV, Peak Oil, Cholesterol both LDL and HDL,...

So much to worry about...

17 posted on 03/15/2004 11:57:46 AM PST by Calamari (Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
Thats good, because I bought a whole case at Sams and hid them in my top drawer. ;o

I think the main thing missing in our diet today is exercise, machines do the work for us.

Its hard to pump weight or ride a thread mill to me, But taking a bike ride or long walk is actually pretty uplifting, especially now that spring is here.

I bet your great Aunt stayed busy most of all.

18 posted on 03/15/2004 12:01:19 PM PST by No Blue States
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To: neverdem
I wonder if this is being questioned because Atkins dieters have high levels of good cholesterol?
19 posted on 03/15/2004 12:01:20 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: neverdem
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20 posted on 03/15/2004 12:02:24 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Space Available for Rent or Lease by the Day, Week, or Month. Reasonable Rates. Inquire within.)
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