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Reality Check (Spanish Troops In Iraq...less than one percent of the force)
Roger L Simon ^ | March 15, 2004 | Roger L Simon

Posted on 03/15/2004 9:30:22 AM PST by conservativecorner

DRUDGE REPORT this morning lists the occupying force numbers for the individual countries in Iraq. Although Drudge, being a yellow journalist, uses the term "sizable hole" for what the Spaniards will leave when they depart, they are at 1300 soldiers presently less than one percent of the force. placing them at number six on the list between the Ukraine at 1600 and the Netherlands at 1100. Their departure will be largely symbolic.

Of course the level of that symbolism is the important question. And what transpires from here on out is wildly unpredictable. Although Francis Fukuyama and others told us history was at its end, clearly they were dreaming (Who can blame them?-ed.). Despite a temporary victory in the Spanish election, this action may prove to have been the Islamofascists biggest mistake. They may have checkmated themselves. What do they do next? One more similar act in Europe or the USA may turn the majority of the Western world Jacksonian. We shall see, I'm afraid.

UPDATE: Meanwhile (hat tips: Mike and Rick Ballard), Poland is standing firm: "Revising our positions on Iraq after terrorists attacks would be to admit that terrorists are stronger and that they are right (to pursue attacks)," Prime Minister Leszek Miller told a news conference in the Polish town of Tarnow. More to come--obviously.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; spain
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To: Alberta's Child
The reality of the FALN case is this: if a president who grants clemency to people who were involved in 130 bombing attacks in the United States is not guilty of treason, then nobody is under any obligation to obey any laws in this country anymore.

Well, you made your own case against the logic of bizzare tangent you are on here; if we listen to you, then no one is under any obligation to obey any laws in this country anymore--which is as sophmoric as it is irresponsible.

Spain called this their 9/11, if they weren't the weak-kneed, capitulating cowards that everyone is labeling them, then they too would have woke up from their slumber of treating terrorism as a police action, as your beloved Clinton and all before him did, and into a War.

What the Spanish are doing is using this threat to advance their own narrow political purposes-socialism, just as you are obviously using this issue to advance your immature 3rd party agenda.

41 posted on 03/15/2004 11:34:39 AM PST by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Treason doth never prosper, for if it does, none dare call it treason)
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To: Alberta's Child
Trust me on this one -- New York City "got over" 9/11 a long time ago.

Of course I don't trust you, you failed to back up your baseless assertion that NY City council said that cigarettes were a greater threat than terrorism.

That's why so many of these victims' families have given up their careers and become professional malcontents and semi-professional talking heads instead.

Out of the 2,800 victims families that you mock, about 13 are members of the political group that has become talking heads. September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrow. That same group opposed the Afgan war, and has links to far left SOCIALIST groups, sound familiar? They are reading talking points, which apparently you are as well because your points are so muddled and contradictory that one has to imagine they are held onto from arguement's past.

Does this sound like a nation at war?

It sounds like fringe wings of political groups putting their agenda above the safety of America. That happens from far right wing kooks like yourself as well.

42 posted on 03/15/2004 11:45:22 AM PST by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Treason doth never prosper, for if it does, none dare call it treason)
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To: RightWhale
"When the real war starts, everyone will be in it. There won't be any civilians."

it has already started
43 posted on 03/15/2004 11:53:27 AM PST by raloxk
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To: raloxk
No one is in it. When it starts, everyone will be in it. Most don't believe there is a war, and to the extent that they are not involved, they are correct. They may also, like the plurality of Spanish voters, believe they can vote the war away.
44 posted on 03/15/2004 12:06:25 PM PST by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: conservativecorner
Any country fighting alongside the US Forces, leaving any theater of action is a "gaping hole". Spain's departure from Iraq is good news if your a terrorist sitting in a cave.
45 posted on 03/15/2004 1:33:13 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is Communism one drink at a time. - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: RightWhale
When the real war starts, everyone will be in it. There won't be any civilians.

That war which you speak of started in October 2001.

46 posted on 03/15/2004 1:34:23 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is Communism one drink at a time. - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Overture or prelude. First act yet to come.
47 posted on 03/15/2004 2:36:15 PM PST by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: Dane
It will come out sooner or later that the socialists knew about the madrid terror event ahead of time and thus were able to have instant nationwide protests within HOURS of the mayhem, signs painted in advance and ready to go....

How else could they have been ready signs and all? This entire event was staged by socialist/fascists arrayed against the USA.

In fact it would not surprise me that socialists worldwide are now contacting al queaida cell operatives (remember that mole we had here working with them from McKinney's office, the spy?) and asking them to coordinate these highly effective bombing campaigns to solidify their base, and overthrow conservatives and moderates worldwide, in favor of them and their communist/religious fascists (islamists) worldwide.

this is but the extension of warfare, by the communistic and fascistic socialist branch of the human race. It did NOT end with the cold war. This is STILL the cold war. and the new assasins of choice are al queada. It would not surprise me if the "foreign leaders" that Kerry claims have endorsed his candidacy are working with the terrorists to bring about enough turmoil in their own nations (britain for example) to cause MOST of Bush's foreign allies in the WOT to lose office...

Neither would it surprise me that the party that supports ELF burning down businesses and killing loggers in the Northwest, ALSO is going to find ways to help the terrorists commit mass murder atrocities here in the USA in order to get back into power.

I think they are all murderors... and the guy in Spain... he probably paid islamists to pull of this atrocity JUST to get in power. socialists are good at staging reichstag events to achieve political goals.

48 posted on 03/15/2004 2:48:55 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2 (smaller government? you gotta be kidding!)
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To: narby
I believe evidence will show in the future that zapatos' organization coordinated with their allies, alquaida and islamists worldwide to carry this out... how else could the zap supporters have had all their signs ready to go, just in time to leave for the scheduled protests?

Since campaigning is illegal in Spain in the weeks prior to elections, via their own mccain feingold bills... how else could the protestors overthrow the government at the last minute that was eight points ahead?

this is giving evidence of a premeditated political Reichstag event, designed in concert with anti american communist/socialsts worldwide... and that includes "the foreign leaders want me" Ho Chi Kerry.

there should be a more secretive investigation into zapatos supporters and their contacts with muslim terrorists...

and kerry too.
49 posted on 03/15/2004 3:10:21 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2 (smaller government? you gotta be kidding!)
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