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To: azhenfud
I have.

I took the time to get past the spin and find more information out. I didn't spend my time looking for information from people who would simply support my misconceptions, I challenged their date, and in turn challenged mine.

It's YOUR responsibility as a citizen to do the same for yourself, not mine to do it for you.

Illegal aliens have no right to be here, which is why their presence here is deemed to be illegal, but there is a positive economic impact to their presence, and the figures you spout are top loaded and simply wrong at times. They are very similar to the left's "tax break for the very rich" line.

By the way, I have posted the pertinent data in this forum ad nauseum, but it's never changed the mind of one single mule-headed nativist...I doubt that it would change yours.

82 posted on 03/17/2004 4:06:44 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Unless the world is made safe for Democracy, Democracy won't be safe in the world.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez; american spirit
So Luis - you don't see any problem with the 8-12 million Illegaliens and you don't see a cost over benefit net effect? But you say it's up to me to dispute the evidence of report after report confirming Illegaliens' costs to taxpayers? LOL!

Really ingenuous counter, Luis. Apparently you refuse to consider what other "great benefits" those states mostly affected by Illegaliens are contending with. Overdrawn budgets, overwhelming crime, overcrowded schools, bankrupt hospitals, revolving door prisons necessary to make room for Illegaliens, and law enforcement agents overwhelmed almost to the point of surrender. The Illegaliens even cost legal aliens (migrant workers) by depressing normal wage rates to artificially low levels. That's fact, Luis. But should you understand that? Apparently not.

I challenge you to provide evidence in ONE AREA where volumes of Illegaliens "contribute" to the economy and do NOT resultantly cost taxpayers in some form. I challenge you to show where "taxes paid" by Illegaliens remotely offset the monetary cost to state and federal social programs they are bent on draining. It doesn't exist, but the evidence of their costs to taxpayers does. Luis, their "contributions" are glaringly apparent. Take your shades off, man.

As asked for in #81, show your numbers....
91 posted on 03/17/2004 8:21:49 AM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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