[Gypssy]

I haven't heard much of this on news channels. Is there anything to this?

[raloxk]

"I haven't heard much of this on news channels. Is there anything to this?"

no and conservatives should stay away from this. This charge,even if true, is so outlandish, the public will never buy it. Seems that conservatives are willing to embrace loony theories about Kerry just as the left embraces loony theories about Bush. If the GOP cant beat Kerry on issues, and have to focus on this nonesense, they deserve to lose.

[binger]

[OldFriend]

Brinkley has the unenvious position of having gotten into bed with a lying piece of garbage. One wonders if he has the character to acknowledge his leftist leanings have gotten him in trouble.

[twntaipan]

This is so much bigger than the fabrication that Bush went AWOL from Guard duty (which wasn't true).

[veronica]

This story is starting to make the rounds. Fox did a segment over the weekend. I picked up on it last week, posted a piece on it.

[freekitty]

I see Kerry is digging that hole deeper and deeper.

[robowombat]

Something more from a blog:
VVAW Assassination Plot
This article from Thomas H. Lipscomb, New York Sun, sheds some light on the history of Vietnam Veterans Against the War. Apparently, this was not quite the peaceful antiwar group we had thought.


The anti-war group that John Kerry was the principal spokesman for debated and voted on a plot to assassinate politicians who supported the Vietnam War.

Mr. Kerry denies being present at the November 12-15, 1971, meeting in Kansas City of Vietnam Veterans Against the War, and says he quit the group before the meeting. But according to the current head of Missouri Veterans for Kerry, Randy Barnes, Mr. Kerry, who was then 27, was at the meeting, voted against the plot, and then orally resigned from the organization.

…In addition to Mr. Barnes’s recollection placing Mr. Kerry at the Kansas City meeting, another Vietnam veteran who attended the meeting, Terry Du-Bose, said that Mr. Kerry was there.

Enough witnesses to show Kerry was there. To his credit, he did resign over the assassination plot. Just can’t come across such interesting history and not share it. It does give an indication of what kind of group he was involved in. More details can be in the following cited book.

Gerald Nicosia’s 2001 book “Home To War” reports that one of the key leaders of Vietnam Veterans Against the War, Scott Camil,"proposed the assassination of the most hard-core conservative members of Congress,as well as any other powerful, intractable opponents of the antiwar movement.” The book reports on the Kansas City meeting at which Mr.Camil’s plan was debated and then voted down.

Mr. Nicosia’s book was widely praised by reviewers as varied as General Harold Moore, author of “We Were Soldiers”; Gloria Emerson, who had been a New York Times reporter during the Vietnam War, and leftist Howard Zinn. Mr. Kerry himself stated in a blurb on the cover that the book “ties together the many threads of a difficult period.” Mr. Kerry hosted a party for the book in the Hart Senate Office Building that was televised on C-SPAN.

He was obviously aware of the book. Another twist on this is here.

Another source is an October 20,1992, oral history interview of Scott Camil on file at the University of Florida Oral History Archive. In it, Mr. Camil speaks of his plan for an alternative to Mr. Kerry’s idea of symbolically throwing veterans’ medals over the fence onto the steps of the Capitol during the Dewey Canyon III demonstration in Washington in April of 1971.

“My plan was that, on the last day we would go into the [congressional] offices we would schedule the most hardcore hawks for last - and we would shoot them all,” Mr. Camil told the Oral History interviewer. “I was serious.”

And we all know, Kerry threw the medals. Considering the alternative, he definitely chose the better option irregardless of whose medals he tossed. Suffice it to say this was a radical bunch. And to satisfy curiosity as to who the targets were is this quote.

According to the Nicosia book and interviews with VVAW members who were involved, at the Vietnam Veterans Against the War Kansas City leadership conference, Mr. Camil tried to put his plan into effect. He called together eight to 10 Marines to organize something he called “The Phoenix Project.” … Mr. Camil’s Phoenix Project planned to execute the Southern senatorial leadership that was financing the Vietnam War. Senators like John Stennis, Strom Thurmond, and John Tower were his targets, according to Mr. Camil. They were to be killed during the Senate Christmas recess the following month.
Interesting bit of history especially since Mr. Camil, the assassin, is joining Kerry’s campaign.

In a phone interview with the Sun this week, Mr. Camil did not dispute either the account in the Nicosia book or in the oral history. He said he plans to accept an offer by the Florida Kerry organization to become active in Mr. Kerry’s presidential campaign. Campaign aides to Mr. Kerry invited Mr. Camil to a meeting for the senator in Orlando last week, but they did not meet directly.
No crooks or liars in Kerry’s campaign, just an assassin. This should shape up to be a very interesting campaign, no?

[mtbopfuyn]

Hanging out in a cave for the weekend, huh? This story is a biggie and has been discussed and researched here since Friday. Yes, it's true. The problem is not whether Kerry supposedly resigned (conveniently) 2 days before the vote to kill 7 US senators but that he was one of the head honchos of an organization that discussed and plotted to assassinate 7 US senators and did nothing to stop it or report the actions to the FBI.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1097045/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1097185/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1096162/posts

[atomicpossum]

I'm more focussed on the fact that Kerry's 'band of brothers' was so radical that even a segment of them were advocating the assassination of American officials. Whether Kerry was present for the vote or not is one thing, and relevant, but just the fact that he was involved with the VVAW, an organization where such an idea would even come to consideration, speaks volumes and is something Kerry needs to answer to.

[The Shrew]

Ping!

TS

[kevkrom]

Once put to a vote, the death plot went down to defeat, with Kerry voting in the majority, according to the two witnesses who say he was there.

This is oddly worded... enough so that the tin-foil types could say that Kerry conceivably could have voted for the assassination, but that the measure fell short of some kind of super-majority vote. This clearly contratsts with other reports that specifically say that Kerry voted against the assassination.

[bootyist-monk]

Doug has been pushing this hard. Looks like it is starting to take hold in the mainstream. Reaching the point where it can be ignored by Kerry, methinks.

[petitfour]

I was a mere toddler at the time, but I just learned on another thread that my very own senator was on the list, and he was shot and nearly killed in DC in 1973 during a mugging. Senator Stennis was "the conscience of the Senate." Was anyone ever arrested for shooting Senator Stennis? Maybe it isn't related to this at all. But I love history, and this sort of thing spurs my desire to know more.

[lilylangtree]

Whoa!