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Remember the Alamo
The Vanguard ^ | March 12, 2004 | Rod D. Martin

Posted on 03/15/2004 4:01:23 AM PST by aardvark1

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To: wku man; Travis McGee; archy
Don't get me wrong, I'm just worried about a narrow segment of the extreme right. You know they exist, and you know why they can't be trusted with power.

The proper strategy is to explain to mainstream America, even those on the center left and the agribusiness right, why illegal immigration, bun bans, and European multipolarity are aspects of another political extreme.

What the multipolarity proponents fail to realize is that people like Long Arm are a kind of a balance. Our founding fathers believed it. So should mainstream America. The task before us is to make a better case to middle America. Trust is the most important element. People need to see Long Arm as one of themselves, a true Minute Man. Captain Isaac's men on Lexington Green were trusted and loved by everyone they defended.

I still haven't read Matt's book, but it's pretty obvious to me that he's taking the approach I'm suggesting: making a case to the American people with the pen why the sword is essential to their freedoms. Sworn to defend the Constitution, he wields a keyboard like Captain Isaac hefted a Brown Bess.
41 posted on 03/16/2004 1:24:47 PM PST by risk
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To: expat_panama; risk
Houston got it done at San Jacinto because the defenders of the Alamo, disobeying orders to retreat, gave him the time to gather troops.
42 posted on 03/16/2004 1:37:02 PM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (PEACE - Through Superior Firepower)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
A kind of Thermopylae of the southwest?
43 posted on 03/16/2004 2:43:59 PM PST by risk
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To: risk
I have no naive illusions about the patriotism or lack thereof of the 'rats who would use the Constitution for toilet paper. Their loyalty is to the UN and achieving a world wide socialist super state. That being my understanding of our adversaries, I mean Enemies Foreign and Domestic to be a shot across their bow, fair warning. Their lack of understanding about our dedication and capabilities could cause them to make reckless miscalculations. A dirty civil war is not in the interest of anyone, it would be a national tragedy. My book is meant to head off that outcome by showing the 'rats the kind of explosion they might cause by their actions.
44 posted on 03/16/2004 3:53:49 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon; risk
There's a lot of debate on that topic. There are those who argue that the Alamo's defenders could have bought more time either by hit and run raids, or by simply joining Houston so he wouldn't have needed as much time.

One thing is for sure though, that remembering the Alamo has certainly given America a tremendous sense of resolute defiance against all odds. A forminable legacy.

45 posted on 03/16/2004 4:46:25 PM PST by expat_panama
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To: Travis McGee; archy; Squantos; Jeff Head
My book is meant to head off that outcome by showing the 'rats the kind of explosion they might cause by their actions.

In my view, it's a stand for peace through strength. I support that message 100%. Many thanks for making such a stand.

46 posted on 03/17/2004 12:32:47 AM PST by risk
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To: risk; Travis McGee; Squantos; spatzie; hookman; Darksheare
Nathan Hale said before he was killed after being caught by the British and accused of spying for the American Revolutionaries, "I regret that I only have one life to give for my country."

We need the spirit of Nathan Hale now more than ever.

Believe me, it's around. But it's now also tempered with the spirit of those Alamo Texians, who made it clear that while the numbers of Mes'kins can overwhelm us, we can make it mighty costly, and take a passel of 'em along with us.

I was once asked in a radio interview what I'd do if presented with a time machine. Why, I'd take a ride in it and visit the period of the Civil War, I answered after just a little thought, an answer not uncommon hereabouts around Memphis I'd reckon. But not to stay for the festivities.

I'd want to have a lengthy chat with a couple of fellas named Nathan Forrest and Pat Cleburne, and spoil the ending for them, depress them with the reality that their labors up to that point had not only been in vain, but that the aftermath would also go badly. And I'd make the offer for them and such of their men so inclined to go instead where they might do some good.

In his youth, Nathan Bedford Forrest was one of those who went to Texas in the fight there for Texan Independence; this time around, he'd get there in time to do some good. And both Cleburne and Forrest had men in their ranks from Texas, men who'd lost family during the fights then just 27 years ago. Might a hundred go along to change the story? A few hundred? A thousand? More? No matter, both Cleburne and Forrest worked miracles whether they had a couple of dozen men, or a couple of hundred. Warn't but a few thousand Mexicans there for the Alamo fight, and with those extras to help out, might be things would be real different. Then and now.

Mr. Bowie, General Forrest. Pleased to meetcha Colonel Crockett; you can call me archy.


47 posted on 03/17/2004 3:59:07 AM PST by archy (Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
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To: risk
A kind of Thermopylae of the southwest?

Leonidas, at Thermopylae: Molon Labe- Come and take them [The Spartan's weapons]

Gonzales: Come and take it [The little 4-pounder cannon used by the Texian's of Gonzales to fight off Indian raide, demanded by Mexican troopers, and depicted on the Gonzales flag.]

Gonzales, Feby, 24 1836, To all the Inhabitants of Texas: In a few words there is 2000 Mexican soldiers in Bexar, and 150 Americans in the Alamo. Sesma is at the had of them, and from the best accounts that can be obtained, they intend to show no quarter. If every man cannot turn out to a man every man in the Alamo will be murdered. They have not more than 8 or 10 days provisions. They say they will defend it or die on the gorund. Provisions, ammunition and Men, or you suffere your men to be murdered in the Fort. If you do not turn out Texas is gone. I left Bexar on the 23rd. at 4 P.M. By the Order of W.V. Travis. L. Smithers.

48 posted on 03/17/2004 4:18:09 AM PST by archy (Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
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To: AK2KX; Ancesthntr; archy; backhoe; Badray; bc2; Jack Black; Joe Brower; Cannoneer No. 4; cgk; ...
A dirty civil war is not in the interest of anyone, it would be a national tragedy.

Guaranteed. The sad question, however, is whether such a dreadful prospect may be preferable to the alternative.

CWII ping.

-archy-/-

49 posted on 03/17/2004 4:23:16 AM PST by archy (Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
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To: StonyBurk
"i remember the Alamo"

I did my AIT (Army Advanced Individual Training) at for Sam Houston in San Antonio in 1970. My expectations were the same as yours. I was so surprised by what I found. You can almost walk by it and not even realize what it was.

I certainly hope that Ron Howard doesn't go PC on us.

50 posted on 03/17/2004 5:07:59 AM PST by Badray (Make sure that the socialist in the White House has to fight a conservative Congress.)
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To: Travis McGee; risk
Amen Travis...the same principle and thought applies to my entire series of novels, The Dragon's Fury Series.

Even if these enemies of liberty are successful in putting together key elements of their ongoing plan...or (what is more likely IMHO) if their foolishness leads towards even more insidious alliances and ouccurances, the morally based liberty we still enjoy to a great extent in this Republic, despite their best efforts, is what will allow us to win out in the end...if we will open our hearts and mind as a people and turn back to it. (2 Chronicles 7:14)

Hopefully, it will not take such events to cause us to return to our roots...sadly, it may.

Jeff

51 posted on 03/17/2004 5:09:56 AM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Dawgreg
I remember reading in the Dallas Morning News an article on our state quarter. The gov't decided against the Alamo but decided I think on a star. What a bunch of COWARDS! Some woman who was involved said the reason they did not want to use the Alamo was because it was " more of a San Antonio thing and they wanted all Texans to feel included. What a joke! I have never in my life considered it a "San Antonio thing" that would be Sea World.
52 posted on 03/17/2004 5:17:50 AM PST by normy (Today I did absolutely nothing......and it was everything I thought it could be.)
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To: Proud_texan
You got me all misty-eyed just reading your post.
53 posted on 03/17/2004 5:20:33 AM PST by Badray (Make sure that the socialist in the White House has to fight a conservative Congress.)
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To: dixierat
Shoot 'em all, let God sort it out.

We don't need God to help figure out who's the enemy of America. They are usually dressed in black robes

54 posted on 03/17/2004 6:20:28 AM PST by clamper1797 (Conservative by nature ... Republican in Spirit ... Patriot by Heart ... and Anti Liberal BY GOD)
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To: Jeff Head
Hopefully, it will not take such events to cause us to return to our roots...sadly, it may.

And starting to look more and more inevitable

55 posted on 03/17/2004 6:25:26 AM PST by clamper1797 (Conservative by nature ... Republican in Spirit ... Patriot by Heart ... and Anti Liberal BY GOD)
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To: archy; Travis McGee; Jeff Head; ExSoldier; ALOHA RONNIE
Mr. Bowie, General Forrest. Pleased to meetcha Colonel Crockett; you can call me archy.

I recently had a talk with someone who had earned a purple heart in WWII the old fashioned way; in other words, he almost died from his wounds. We got onto the topic of the Alamo, and he said, "Live to fight another day if you can. But still, every patriot longs to have been there at least once in his life."

If we have just 300 such men today, this republic will survive another 100 years.

56 posted on 03/17/2004 6:26:22 AM PST by risk (Come and take it.)
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To: normy
Just bleeding heart libs that want to change history and show "diversity". Bull! I'm sick of the whole lot of them. They can only be deterred when we stand firm and fight back! God bless Texas and God bless the Alamo. The courage and blood shed of these men as well as those at Goliad cannot and should not be forgotten. After a recent visit to the San Jacinto battle ground, I felt an renewed pride in my state and a renewed respect for all those who fought and died for the best state in the union!
57 posted on 03/17/2004 6:37:35 AM PST by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: Jeff Head; tallhappy; Atlantic Friend; archy
Speaking of alliances, the French were sailing with the mainland Chinese in some excercises yesterday -- clearly intended to intimidate the Taiwanese.

But my mind is still on Gonzalez: http://www.gonzalestexas.com/events/come_&_take_it!.htm

>>> Gonzales became known as "The Lexington of Texas", where the first shot was fired, and where the first Texas Army of Volunteers gathered. A few months after the first shot, men and boys from the region would gather in Gonzales, sending the only reinforcements ever received at the Alamo.
58 posted on 03/17/2004 6:54:09 AM PST by risk (Come and take it.)
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To: risk
If I remember correctly from Texas History class in 6th grade (a long, long time ago), the quote we were asked to remember was: "Thermopylae had its messenger of defeat; the Alamo had none." A number of the retro-cavalry/soldiers from Fort Concho here in San Angelo are in the new Alamo movie - their horses are used to gunfire.
59 posted on 03/17/2004 6:55:23 AM PST by T Baden
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To: risk
I've seen that - with some surprise. I first thought that was a Drudge Report. Needless to say, the naval exercise was not much publicized here in France. Even if the French contribution is, to say the least, modest, I find the whole event detestable, given the coming Taiwanese elections.

In and by itself, the naval exercise don't really annoy me. We have recently completed joint air exercises with India, China's rival for regional preeminence, and that does not mean we're about to attack Pakistan. India regularly leads naval exercises with the PLA Navy, too, and even the USA trained Chinese elite troops during the Clinton years. What I can't stomach is the coincidence of the naval exercise and the Taiwanese elections. Someone in our Foreign Ministry should be ousted for it - and why not the current pompous incumbent ?
60 posted on 03/17/2004 7:05:33 AM PST by Atlantic Friend (Cursum Perficio)
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