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To: germanicus
The beginning of the end of Western civilization?
Remember. Things looked just as dark in 1939. And just as dark in 1979.

We beat Hitler.

We beat Communism.

We one both wars basically on our own.

We'll win this one too.

53 posted on 03/15/2004 4:38:15 AM PST by samtheman
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To: samtheman
Agreed on the latter, beg to differ on the former. The Soviets and the Germans bled each other white. Soviets had an enormous amount of economic assistance from us, but we *far* from did it "basically on our own".
55 posted on 03/15/2004 4:47:59 AM PST by FreedomPoster (This space intentionally blank)
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To: samtheman
We one both wars basically on our own.

The Cold War was not really a classic war and the nature of the Soviet economic system had more to do with it's collapse than anything else though some Reagan era policies may have hastened it by a generation or so. We did not win WWII one our own at all. The bulk of the fighting was done by the Soviets. The Western front was an after thought to Germans in their war plans. The ever glorified "Battle of the Bulge" - does not even merit any comparison to any of the Major or even middling Soviet- German engagements on the Eastern front. The Germans had a fraction of their forces arrayed against the Allies on D-Day that they had on the Eastern Front. WWII was not won by us alone.

73 posted on 03/15/2004 5:17:08 AM PST by Burkeman1
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To: samtheman
"We one both wars basically on our own."

Ignoring the obvious dishonor you bestow upon the British,Canadians, Australians, Indians etc, the 30 odd million Soviet civilians and soldiers that died in WW2 stand testomony to how overstated your assesment is.
254 posted on 03/15/2004 5:59:12 PM PST by Dave Elias
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