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| 3-14-04
| Bob J
Posted on 03/14/2004 1:42:22 PM PST by Bob J
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To: diotima; Eaker
Guess I need to get onto Paltalk once in a while!!!
To: humblegunner
We miss you.....
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posted on
03/14/2004 2:30:20 PM PST
by
diotima
(Free the Miranda Memos!)
To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
A "help prove that the would-be emperor Kerry has no Purple Heart scars" bump!
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posted on
03/14/2004 2:32:24 PM PST
by
Fawnn
(Canteen wOOhOO Consultant and CookingWithPam.com person)
To: Bob J
I imagine that if by some curse of God ..Hanoi John becomes POTUS
he and his Vietnamese communist bros...in the real estate business
will call for a war crimes tribunal...Kerry of course will get a pass
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posted on
03/14/2004 2:49:25 PM PST
by
joesnuffy
(Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
To: diotima; Bob J
BUMP!!
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posted on
03/14/2004 3:09:58 PM PST
by
The Mayor
(There is no such thing as insignificant service for Christ.)
To: Fawnn
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posted on
03/14/2004 3:10:40 PM PST
by
getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
(You p'cher yes vote in, take yer yes vote out; P'cher no vote in...you do the Kerry Pokey and you...)
To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Thank you for the PING! :)
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posted on
03/14/2004 3:11:57 PM PST
by
getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
(You p'cher yes vote in, take yer yes vote out; P'cher no vote in...you do the Kerry Pokey and you...)
To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
Excellent and accurate cartoon!
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posted on
03/14/2004 3:14:57 PM PST
by
Fawnn
(Canteen wOOhOO Consultant and CookingWithPam.com person)
To: Fawnn
I'm thinking of blowing it up and taking it to some Kerry FReeps. LOL!
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posted on
03/14/2004 3:19:38 PM PST
by
getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
(You p'cher yes vote in, take yer yes vote out; P'cher no vote in...you do the Kerry Pokey and you...)
To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
I'm thinking of blowing it up and taking it to some Kerry FReeps.
Great idea!!!
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posted on
03/14/2004 3:21:37 PM PST
by
Fawnn
(Canteen wOOhOO Consultant and CookingWithPam.com person)
To: Bob J
Certainly there must be some members of the military that served with him and can verify his public account. Perhaps they are in cognito enjoying some Ketchup money in an obscure spot in Africa or Latin America like a certain intern.
To: The Great RJ
Of the ten members that served on his boats, nine seem to be with him. The one that isn't seems to be getting some attention, trere have been a couple threads about him on the Forum. Sorry, I can't remember his name...Gardner I think.
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posted on
03/14/2004 3:28:07 PM PST
by
Bob J
(www.freerepublic.net www.radiofreerepublic.com...check them out!)
To: Bob J
Viet Nam & Senator Kerry
BobJ, Along with his medical records, is there any way we can find out how he got those medals? I hear it's quite unusual for a man who spent only 4 months.
This e-mail was written by Mike Morrison, who won a bronze star in Vietnam and who is now retired, but wrote speeches for Lee Iacocca for many years. It was sent to his brother Ed, who sent it to one of our readers who follows such matters. -Ed.-
Something's fishy.
I've long thought that John Kerry's war record was phony. We talked about it when you were here. It's mainly been instinct because, as you know, nobody who claims to have seen the action he does would so shamelessly flaunt it for political gain.
I was in the Delta shortly after he left. I know that area well. I know the operations he was involved in well. I know the tactics and the doctrine used. I know the equipment. Although I was attached to CTF-116 (PBRs) I spent a fair amount of time with CTF-115 (swift boats), Kerry's command.
Here are my problems and suspicions:
(1) Kerry was in-country less than four months and collected, a Bronze Star, a Silver Star and three purple hearts. I never heard of anybody with any outfit I worked with (including SEAL One, the Sea Wolves, Riverines and the River Patrol Force) collecting that much hardware so fast, and for such pedestrian actions. The Swifts did a commendable job. But that duty wasn't the worst you could draw. They operated only along the coast and in the major rivers (Bassac and Mekong). The rough stuff in the hot areas was mainly handled by the smaller, faster PBRs. Fishy.
(2) Three Purple Hearts but no limp. All injuries so minor that no time lost from duty. Amazing luck. Or he was putting himself in for medals every time he bumped his head on the wheel house hatch? Combat on the boats was almost always at close range. You didn't have minor wounds. At least not often. Not three times in a row. Then he used the three purple hearts to request a trip home eight months before the end of his tour. Fishy.
(3) The details of the event for which he was given the Silver Star make no sense at all. Supposedly, a B-40 (rocket propelled grenade) was fired at the boat and missed. Charlie jumps up with the launcher in his hand, the bow gunner knocks him down with the twin .50 (caliber machine guns), Kerry beaches the boat, jumps off, shoots Charlie, and retrieves the launcher. If true, he did everything wrong. (a) Standard procedure when you took rocket fire was to put your stern to the action and go (away) balls to the wall. A B-40 has the ballistic integrity of a Frisbee after about 25 yards, so you put 50 yards or so between you and the beach and begin raking it with your .50's. (b) Did you ever see anybody get knocked down with a .50 caliber round and get up? The guy was dead or dying. The rocket launcher was empty. There was no reason to go after him (except if you knew he was no danger to you - just flopping around in the dust during his last few seconds on earth, and you wanted some derring-do in your after-action report). And we didn't shoot wounded people. We had rules against that, too. (c) Kerry got off the boat. This was a major breach of standing procedures. Nobody on a boat crew ever got off a boat in a hot area. EVER! The reason was simple. If you had somebody on the beach your boat was defenseless. It couldn't run and it couldn't return fire. It was stupid and it put his crew in danger. He should have been relieved and reprimanded. I never heard of any boat crewman ever leaving a boat during or after a firefight.
Something is very fishy.
Here we have a JFK wannabe who is hardly in Vietnam long enough to get a good tan, collects medals faster than Audie Murphy in a job where lots of medals weren't common, gets sent home eight months early, requests separation from active duty a few months after that so he can run for Congress, finds out war heroes don't sell well in Massachusetts in 1970 so reinvents himself as Jane Fonda, throws his ribbons in the dirt with the cameras running to jump start his political career, gets Stillborn Pell to invite him to address Congress and Bobby Kennedy's speechwriter to do the heavy lifting, winds up in the Senate himself a few years later, votes against every major defense bill, says the CIA is irrelevant after the Wall (Berlin) came down, votes against the Gulf War, a big mistake since that turned out well, decides not to make the same mistake twice so votes for invading Iraq, but oops, that didn't turn out so well so he now says he really didn't mean for Bush to go to war when he voted to allow him to go to war.
I'm real glad you or I never had this guy covering out flanks in Vietnam. I sure don't want him as Commander in Chief. I hope that somebody from CTF-115 shows up with some documented facts challenging Kerry's Vietnam record.
I know in my gut it's wildly inflated. And fishy.
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posted on
03/14/2004 3:36:20 PM PST
by
Gracey
(NOT Fonda Kerry and his 9.10 Democrat Party mentality)
To: Gracey
Short of Kerry's approval, no.
I don't know why, it seems they should be public records.
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posted on
03/14/2004 3:42:16 PM PST
by
Bob J
(www.freerepublic.net www.radiofreerepublic.com...check them out!)
To: Eaker; Bob J
Eaker, thanks for the ping!
The Rats are starting to complain about "various hateful right wing websites" that are spreading malicious LIES about Kerry, and I suspect we need to take most of the credit for their discomfort, LOL!
We all know they'd rather eat rat poison than mention us by name. Ohhhh, this is gonna be FUN!
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posted on
03/14/2004 3:53:46 PM PST
by
Humidston
(Two Words: TERM LIMITS)
To: Bob J
Well I believe that the medical records should be kept private. On the other hand Kerry should release all his records just like the President did, just to set the record straight. We both know that will never happen. Too Bad.
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posted on
03/14/2004 3:55:00 PM PST
by
vpintheak
(Our Liberties we prize, and our rights we will maintain!)
To: Bob J
Whether or not we pry loose his medical records, we ought to find out whether Kerry put
himself in for all of his medals (as I've heard he did). Could be the granting of medals was more or less automatic on a commander's say-so. If so, he could get himself a fistful of them in his few months, just by asking.
I should think that information would be written up somewhere.
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posted on
03/14/2004 4:14:13 PM PST
by
T'wit
(I'll believe Global Warming when climatologists use computer modeling to win Power Ball a few times)
To: Bob J; All
I was reading again some of the things that John Kerry said when he returned from Viet Nam. One thing stood out - he accused the veterans of raping and pillaging and doing unspeakable horror to the Vietnamese.
Perhaps my logic is a little faulty, but since he is a VietNam Vet wouldn't HE HAVE COMMITTED THE SAME CRIMES? Shouldn't he be tarred and feathered with his own paint brush?
But then what do I know, I simply read what he says...
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posted on
03/14/2004 4:20:53 PM PST
by
dixie sass
(FReep A.N.S.W.E.R. - MARCH 20 IN FAYETTEVILLE, N.C.)
To: Bob J; All
PS to my last post. Why is serving in Congress and do we really want a war criminal as president?
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posted on
03/14/2004 4:22:11 PM PST
by
dixie sass
(FReep A.N.S.W.E.R. - MARCH 20 IN FAYETTEVILLE, N.C.)
To: Bob J
You and I and others like us think, but the ones that vote for Kerry don't. They are deaf and dumb to anything but party loyalties and are incapable of understanding anything.
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posted on
03/14/2004 4:24:20 PM PST
by
dixie sass
(FReep A.N.S.W.E.R. - MARCH 20 IN FAYETTEVILLE, N.C.)
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