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To: billbears
Because I don't support these wars that necessarily makes me part of the problem.

It doesn't matter one way or the other. The fact that you brought it up, unsolicited, makes the whole enterprise suspect.

I'm not changing the subject. The subject is neocons.

No it's not. It's Paleocons. Read the title.

Bombing those that disagree with this nation of states into submission? Even if they do not represent a clear and present danger to our nation of states?

Just ask yourself: WWMD? (What would Machiavelli do?)

And I know you're screaming for attention with that ideosyncratic "nation of states" routine, but I don't care. Honestly.

Let me make it perfectly clear for you without stooping to the innuendoes of 'troll-like'.

It isn't an innuendo.

...Wilsonians are calling it today.

Wilsonians? That's 80 years ago! And I thought the Muslims held grudges.

That's not my view. That's the view of the men who founded this nation of states

Yes, I suppose it is safe to say none of them were Wilsonian.Sheesh

148 posted on 03/13/2004 10:19:31 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: AmishDude
It doesn't matter one way or the other. The fact that you brought it up, unsolicited, makes the whole enterprise suspect.

No it's not. It's Paleocons. Read the title

The article is about paleocons. Who but pseudo conservatives craving acceptance use that title about conservatives? The article is written by either a neocon or a liberal. Either way same thing. To discuss paleocons, one must eventually defend the position from pseudo-conservatives. Why don't we just call you guys liberal warhawks?

Just ask yourself: WWMD? (What would Machiavelli do?)

I've got a better one. Ask yourself WWWD (What would Washington do?). Of course if you were to do that, you might see these pseudo-conservatives have stepped far over the line

And I know you're screaming for attention with that ideosyncratic "nation of states" routine, but I don't care. Honestly.

Not screaming for anything. I just choose to accept the fact that this nation of states was established as a voluntary union of separate and sovereign states. It's not 'America'. I don't live in a prepositional phrase. I live in the state of North Carolina that is part of the United States. America denotes not only our nation but Canada, Mexico, etc

It isn't an innuendo.

Oh, a slur, so much better. But what else to expect from psuedo conservative thought processes

Wilsonians? That's 80 years ago! And I thought the Muslims held grudges.

Those who do not learn from history are destined to repeat history. Most of what we have faced in the 20th century could be traced back to Wilson's 'spreading democracy' stunt.

Yes, I suppose it is safe to say none of them were Wilsonian.Sheesh

Of course you are more than welcome to find a majority of the Founders that advocated establishment of a strong offensive force capable of establishing our worldview on 3rd world nations 5000 miles away and then using it on them. Good luck though as you won't find any

160 posted on 03/14/2004 11:31:57 AM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice.)
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