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Brownlee: Changing environment increases need for force protection gear
Army News Service ^ | March 12, 2004 | Joe Burlas

Posted on 03/13/2004 10:23:17 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4

WASHINGTON (Army News Service, March 12, 2004) – The Army continues to meet its Operation Iraqi Freedom force protection equipment requirements in a timely manner and Congress is helping to do that, the Army’s top leadership recently told some of the nation’s top lawmakers.

Acting Secretary of the Army Les Brownlee and Army Chief of Staff Gen. Peter Schoomaker appeared before the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Appropriations – Defense to give testimony March 10 on the 2004 Army Posture Statement, the Army’s blueprint of what it wants to accomplish in the coming year with appropriated funds.

“Many of you have asked about measures we are taking to protect our forces in Iraq,” Brownlee said. “ The funds within the fiscal year 04 supplemental have sustained and supported our troops -- and have literally saved their lives. I know that our Soldiers and their families appreciate your unwavering support on these issues.”

That supplemental budget has allowed the Army purchase more up-armored Humvees so that there are now more than 2,000 within the OIF theater, compared to 500 last spring, Brownlee said.

Costing about twice of the normal $75,000 military Humvee production model, an up-armored Humvee has steel plate doors, ballistic-resistant windows and steel plating underneath the vehicle that offers better protection against bullets, rocket propelled grenades and improvised explosive devises. An up-armored version also weighs about 3,000 pounds more than the regular version.

OIF requirements for up-armored Humvees has changed at least seven times in the last six months, according to Army officials. CENTCOM has received 2,109 as of Feb. 20 against its latest critical requirement of 4,149. Brownlee testified that the Army is on track to deliver that critical requirement by October through industry ramping up to meet the demand and redistributing up-armored Humvees from other places in the Army.

“We have worked with industry to steadily increase production of these vehicles and will continue to do so -- going from 185 produced this month, up to 220 per month by May,” Brownlee said.

Brownlee visited several of the companies that produce up-armored Humvees late last month, talking with company executives and workers about the Army’s need for their product.

“They are committed to and capable of increasing production rates up to 450 per month to help us fill our requirement even faster,” Brownlee told the committee. “While this will require additional resources, we are working with the Army budget and with (the Office of the Secretary of Defense) so we can reach the theater’s requirements as quickly as possible.”

Achieving the 450-per-month production level will require about $550 million additional funding in FY04 and $150 million in FY05 to sustain that production through February 2005, said Army officials.

Though the OIF requirement is currently 4,419 up-armored Humvees, the Army plans to have 5,000 in theater by November. The Army objective is to have 12,334 up-armored Humvees Army-wide.

The Army has also been busy getting industry to ramp up production of the Interceptor Body Armor. As of January, the Army has met the OIF in-theater requirement for IBA. Production continues at 25,000 a month to field 840,000 against a total Army requirement.

“There are now sufficient stocks of IBA to equip every Soldier and (Department of Defense) civilian in Iraq and Afghanistan,” Brownlee said. “All Soldiers now rotating into theater will be issued a set of IBA either before they deploy to Iraq or immediately after arrival in Afghanistan.”

To Congressmen’s question as to why the Army did not have enough up-armored Humvees within CENTCOM last summer when insurgents started using improvised explosive devises, Schoomaker replied that the vehicle was designed for military police and scout use. “Nobody saw the UAH as the primary platform to fight from,” Schoomaker said.

Brownlee responded that the nature of the fight has evolved since the OIF has moved into stability operations. He added the Army faces an adaptive enemy who has a vote in how the Army needs to operate in Iraq.

The secretary also said the Army will use some of the funds from the requested termination of the Commanche helicopter program to improve force protection of its aviation fleet. Specifically all Chinook helicopters -- active, Guard and Reserve -- will be hard wired to accept the latest aviation force protection suite so it may be installed when needed.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: armor; army; forceprotection; gear; humvees; interceptorarmor; lesbrownlee; oif2; uparmoredhumvees; wheeledarmor

1 posted on 03/13/2004 10:23:18 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Thanks.
2 posted on 03/13/2004 10:23:51 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (I always thought the Yankees had something to do with it.)
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To: archy; Old Sarge; Lurker; John Jorsett; SLB; colorado tanker; SAMWolf; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...
ping
3 posted on 03/13/2004 11:12:26 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (I always thought the Yankees had something to do with it.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
Worried this is BS;

No way they will stop an RPG or even .50 cal. 7.62 x 54 AP will probably go right throught it.

And more importantly, how do you shoot out of it?

Need a purpose build vehicle. What is Stryker for?

I always loved the Armored Engineer Vehicle with the 165mm breach loading mortar / demolition gun.


4 posted on 03/13/2004 11:25:50 AM PST by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, news first, fast, 5 minutes sooner, stay tuned to FReeper Radio!)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
bump
5 posted on 03/13/2004 11:36:14 AM PST by VOA
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To: MindBender26
“Nobody saw the UAH as the primary platform to fight from,” Schoomaker said.

How DID the UAH become the primary platform? Who made that decision?

6 posted on 03/13/2004 11:40:48 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (I always thought the Yankees had something to do with it.)
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7 posted on 03/13/2004 11:45:40 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (I always thought the Yankees had something to do with it.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
Are there any of those left in the inventory?

L

8 posted on 03/13/2004 12:08:58 PM PST by Lurker (Don't bite the hand that meads you.)
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To: Lurker
1996, when the M728 Combat Engineer Vehicle and its 165mm M123 demolition round was removed from the Army’s inventory, an action that threatened to leave combat engineers without a means to destroy or "rubble" large obstacles that would otherwise impede friendly troops.
9 posted on 03/13/2004 1:10:26 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (I always thought the Yankees had something to do with it.)
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Thank you for posting this, Cannoneer No. 4.
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Brownlee to the Senate: Many of you have asked about measures we are taking to protect our forces in Iraq... The funds within the fiscal year 04 supplemental have sustained and supported our troops -- and have literally saved their lives. I know that our Soldiers and their families appreciate your unwavering support on these issues.”
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Troops (and generous Veterans) will always look out for the troops.

God bless 'em all!

10 posted on 03/13/2004 2:36:14 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl ("(We)..come to rout out tyranny from its nest. Confusion to the enemy." - B. Taylor, US Marine)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4; MindBender26; Lurker; Ragtime Cowgirl
Cannoneer thanks for the ping. To get to the point, these numbers and delivery dates are fantasy unless there is an immediate release of funds and purchase orders.

1. The current stated need of 4149 right now less 2109 in country which leaves 2040 to be built unless there are more to be redirected. I doubt that is the case in any remaining quantity so that means 2040 to build.

2. Plants can go to 450 per month or 500 per month if funded and with leadtimes. Presently though the plants will product a peak of 220 per month May-Sept and then drop off to abouty 45 this time next year unless orders from the Army are received. FY-05 funds only 818 for the entire year. Rumsfeld is holding back on an Iraq-Afghanistan supplemental until after the election so our troops will be going without.

Brownlee has finally determined that he was misled about production capacity and to his credit is trying to scrounge the money to go to 450 per month and hold it there. To date he hasn't gotten the money out of OSD. If money isn't found we're looking at late summer 05 to meet about 3300 in field so you can see the shortfall.

3. What Brownlee wants and what CENTCOM needs are entirely different from what Rumsfeld is willing to release.

4. Congress is pressing the matter. There will be an attempted resolution brought forward to the House Armed Services Committee this week asking for immediate release of funds to move to capacity. Anyone interested in contacting their congressman on this matter, please send me an email message. This is very important.

11 posted on 03/13/2004 4:13:12 PM PST by Ranger
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
We are winning ~ the bad guys are losing ~ trolls, terrorists, democrats and the mainstream media are sad ~ very sad!

~~ Bush/Cheney 2004 ~~

12 posted on 03/13/2004 5:05:29 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
That's the vehicle!

We took off the blade. That gun was like a huge M79 bloop tube. You could easilly watch the round all the way to the target. And with a field rigged fuze VT, it was deadly on infantry in open or trenches!

We used them for base camp defense at Tay Ninh and Cu Chi. Kept them in rear, along with some twin 40mm Dusters, then they could quickly react to any serious probes.

Light was great for blinding bad guys and proving illum for helicopter gun ships.

Great weapons system. Like many weapons. it was highly sucessful being used for something it was never designed for!
13 posted on 03/13/2004 7:19:33 PM PST by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, news first, fast, 5 minutes sooner, stay tuned to FReeper Radio!)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Bump!
14 posted on 03/14/2004 9:59:28 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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