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U.S. Tax Code Provisions Encourage Offshore Jobs
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 03/12/2004 | STEVE LIESMAN

Posted on 03/12/2004 7:17:50 AM PST by neutrino

Edited on 04/22/2004 11:51:16 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: neutrino
From another angle. Where is the proof that a tax free, low wage paying American corporation also reduces prices to consumers accordingly?
21 posted on 03/18/2004 11:02:02 AM PST by lewislynn (Free traders know it isn't , they just believe cheap popcorn makers raises their living standards.)
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To: ninenot
I wouldn't dispute the point, but the article gives no indication...
22 posted on 03/18/2004 1:05:09 PM PST by neutrino (Oderint dum metuant: Let them hate us, so long as they fear us.)
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To: neutrino
BTTT
23 posted on 03/18/2004 1:11:37 PM PST by citizen (Write-in Tom Tancredo President 2004!)
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To: ninenot
"Just a wild guess: was it Carnegie or Rockefeller who inserted this provision?"

I sure couldn't tell you. Back then, in the 19-teens, it's perhaps more likely that someone from Dole (Bananas) who had extensive plantations in S. America lobbied for such a provision; if indeed the provision was lobbied for in the first place. As far as I recall, both Carnegie and Rockefeller & their conglomerates (steel & oil) were pretty much domestically-based.

Such provisions IMO actually make a fair amount of sense. It's just that when internet-enabled corporate America runs amok with them, we have the results we have now.
24 posted on 03/18/2004 1:13:36 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (You get more with a gun and a smile than just a smile itself!)
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To: lewislynn
You're right, prices don't decline. But I'll tell you something that disturbs me more than that...supposedly, all of this global shifting helps earnings somewhere, somehow, right? But if so, where are they? I don't see many companies that are making really big gains in profits, despite offshoring.
25 posted on 03/18/2004 1:20:53 PM PST by neutrino (Oderint dum metuant: Let them hate us, so long as they fear us.)
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To: lewislynn
Nike is a great example of low-labor-cost/no-tax-cost companies which charge as little as possible...</sarcasm>
26 posted on 03/18/2004 1:32:25 PM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
Ahhhh...WHY do such provisions make sense?
27 posted on 03/18/2004 1:33:49 PM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Hop A Long Cassidy
Eliminate domestic corporate income tax; VAT on all imports. Ban union membership by government employees (thereby opening the door to true performance and productivity management not to mention increased automation and RIF). Put the knife to every government program except for defense and the interstate highway system. Problem solved.
28 posted on 03/18/2004 1:36:14 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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To: ninenot; clamper1797; sarcasm; BrooklynGOP; A. Pole; Zorrito; GiovannaNicoletta; Caipirabob; ...
Ping
29 posted on 03/18/2004 2:10:35 PM PST by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: harpseal; ninenot
OPIC and other types of foreign aid WE already knew about. THIS tax incentive, THE GOP and CEOs have ALWAYS known about, but declined to share that information with US. Now WE know TOO.

And little good it will do. Notice how the pace of offshoring has slowed down to a trickle? As have the layoffs? New unemployment claims have dropped. Bush hailing the boomer economy.

Just wait until GWB is back in the White House come January. You'll see an offshoring stampede that will expose everything that's gone up to now as just a warm up.

30 posted on 03/18/2004 3:01:48 PM PST by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: Euro-American Scum
There will also be a run on ammo if that happens.

Hint: lay low. It won't be pretty out there.
31 posted on 03/18/2004 3:17:57 PM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: neutrino; gcruse
Notice that the tax code encourages taking away American jobs. Can we at least agree to end this insanity?

Absolutely. But instead, what I hear from your side of the aisle is "raise taxes some more."

32 posted on 03/18/2004 3:19:58 PM PST by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Maj. Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: neutrino
Yes, we can agree. Thank God for John Linder.

www.fairtax.org

Call your senators and your rep, tell them it's time for a national consumption tax. End the income tax, end withholdings shut down the IRS and SET US FREE.
33 posted on 03/18/2004 3:23:12 PM PST by SittinYonder
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To: ninenot
There will also be a run on ammo if that happens. Hint: lay low. It won't be pretty out there.

I'm way ahead of you on this. -:)

34 posted on 03/18/2004 3:27:20 PM PST by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: Poohbah
The fix to this problem already exists. U.S. Rep. John Linder, R-Ga., is proposing a national sales tax that would end all "corporate loopholes" all income tax and all of it.

I'm only supporting candidates (like Herman Cain who's running for Zell Miller's senate seat in Georgia) who support Linder.

http://www.fairtax.org
35 posted on 03/18/2004 3:35:16 PM PST by SittinYonder
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To: ninenot
Like anything else, it's a matter of whether you are the "victim" or the beneficiary, just like if we go to a baseball game and if you like the Yanks and I like the Red Sox and the Sox lose, for me it was a cruddy game and for you it was a good game.

For companies able to offshore their labor, their labor and tax costs decline, the pursuit of which is their right under capitalism. For them it makes sense. The folks who put these ideas together are typically members of an elite class interesting in preserving both their positions and the appearance of their usefulness. They are not very interested in the welfare of the average worker. For them it makes sense.

I may have posted it earlier, but there is bill being talked about in Congress which would allow a one-time tax amnesty for repatriating foreign-earned profits. That would be a 1K point DJIA popper.



36 posted on 03/18/2004 4:17:25 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (You get more with a gun and a smile than just a smile itself!)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
It may be a "right" under capitalism, but that fact alone demonstrates why the USA has some restrictions on 'capitalism.' The moral rectitude is another question entirely.

Of course, these folks also expect that the US's civil and military apparatus will defend their property rights...
37 posted on 03/18/2004 6:36:15 PM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: neutrino
Would you like FRies with that?
38 posted on 03/18/2004 6:45:38 PM PST by Ed_in_NJ
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To: neutrino
As the biggest and best economy in the world, the U.S. is a price maker. We set the standard. A U.S. tax cut might only ignite an international game of tax chicken where all the Lowtaxistans cut their rates below our new, lower rate.
Sounds like a plan, let's do it.

39 posted on 03/18/2004 6:53:14 PM PST by sixmil
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To: Ed_in_NJ
btt
40 posted on 03/18/2004 7:04:19 PM PST by Ciexyz
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