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The difficult question of George W. Bush
WorldNetDaily ^ | March 11, '04 | Hal Lindsey

Posted on 03/11/2004 8:00:51 AM PST by joesnuffy

© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

Many Christians are rethinking their support of George Bush and, frankly, with good reason. I'm not talking about George Bush the Christian, but George Bush the politician.

There is a lot of discussion about George Bush and whether or not he is a "real" Christian, as if that in some way had a bearing on whether or not they will vote for him. If one is going to base his vote on the best Christian for the job, who then gets it? Kerry? Nader? Just not vote at all? Throw it away on a fringe candidate?

Nobody is actually running for the job of Theologian in Chief, and those who will vote for Bush on that basis make up a small portion of the general electorate. When was the last time you voted for a president based on his Christian doctrinal worldview?

Reagan didn't run as a Christian. Reagan's faith wasn't discussed until during his administration. Neither was Christianity an issue in the first Bush campaign.

Jimmy Carter did make it an issue of his campaign, however. During the 1976 presidential campaign in the United States, Jimmy Carter's evangelical faith arose as one of the major issues. The Watergate scandal had toppled the Nixon administration a short time before, and many Americans felt that morality in government was of supreme importance.

Many Republicans crossed over and voted for Carter on that basis alone. (Look how that turned out.)

Then there was the Bible-quoting Bill Clinton who did most of his campaigning in largely black churches throughout the South and made sure the cameras were rolling every Sunday to photograph him entering a church clutching his big, black Bible.

George W. Bush's faith was made a campaign issue by the opposition based on the answer to a debate question.

The question was, "Which philosopher do you admire most?" to which Bush replied, "Jesus Christ." As I recall the moment, Bush's answer seemed to startle him, as if he had spoken without first taking thought. Or so it seemed to me.

In any case, after eight years of Bill Clinton waving a big, black Bible every Sunday and then presiding over the most immoral administration in living memory for the rest of the week, Bush's reply struck a resonant chord with Christian voters. Efforts to use it against him by the Gore campaign fizzled. And "George Bush, the Christian" became part of his image Ð not in the least part because it got votes.

That is not to say he isn't a truly born-again Christian, because, as I've argued in the past, I don't know. One can't assume he isn't because he adheres to replacement theology unless one assumes Protestant Christianity doesn't contain any true Christians, since most mainstream Protestant denominations do, too. (Replacement theology says that Israel forfeited its covenants with God and they were given to the Church. Thus, they have no future as a special people and nation in God's future plan. I totally reject this. God has to keep His word which was unconditionally given to them.)

But voting for a president based on whether or not he shares the same doctrine you do is a waste of time. You are unlikely to find one and, if you do, his doctrine won't square with somebody else. It is an impossible dilemma with a built-in guarantee of disappointment for any who choose to take it on.

That being said, George Bush has been an increasing disappointment politically. His latest deal with Vicente Fox to grant what amounts to amnesty to illegal aliens in the midst of the war against terror is either stupid (and Bush is anything but stupid) or it is a calculated move to win the Spanish vote at the expense of U.S. national security.

Bush's efforts to appease the Muslim community by accepting the heresy that Allah is the same God as the God of the Bible also cause me to question his understanding of Scripture. But then, I know lots of true Christians who are equally uninformed. This is more the fault of Christian ministers who fail to systematically teach the Bible rather than the fault of their parishioners.

Even more disturbing to me is Bush's efforts to win the support of the Muslim community. He entertains Muslim clerics at the White House only to find out later that some of them have ties to terrorists. This causes me to not only question his theology, but his political judgment as well.

He has also shown a very troubling lack of understanding of the true nature of Islam. Islam is not "basically a religion of peace" as he so often proclaims. The Quran, the life of Muhammad and the history of Islam all show that it has been a religion of violence and conquest by the sword. Islam has no concept of democracy as we know it. And Muslims are hostile to the concept because it runs contrary to the Quran.

At the same time, Bush has been consistent in his opposition to abortion, to the inclusion of faith (including Christianity) into the public discourse, and to supporting both marriage and family values.

Bush's war on terrorism Ð though flawed with some intelligence failures Ð has been successful. His aggressive pursuit of terrorists and the countries which support them has prevented a wave of 9-11 type attacks that could have happened if he had been less aggressive. Whether or not there will be more of such horrible attacks, he has most certainly prevented many that could have happened already.

Muslim leaders understand and respect one thing Ð power and the will to use it against enemies. Though the invasion of Iraq did not accomplish the first stated objective Ð to remove WMDs Ð it did send a message to terrorist-bent Muslim leaders in the Middle East. Don't think for a moment that Libya's Moammar Gadhafi would have given up his pursuit of WMDs if it had not been for Iraq's defeat. Nor would Syria be taking a more passive role in its support of terrorists.

When Bill Clinton attacked Serbia without U.N. authorization, Serbia represented no threat of any kind to U.S. national security. But Clinton led NATO in a war that was effectively a military coup d'etat. The war toppled Slobodon Milosevic's regime and the victors stood him before a U.N. war-crimes tribunal.

But, when compared to the global outrage at the U.S.'s removal of Saddam Hussein, Clinton's war with Serbia raised barely a diplomatic eyebrow. That's because Clinton was extremely popular internationally. His feats of "derring-do" and his scandals and his streak of larceny earned him the admiration of the predominately amoral Europeans. Clinton's socialist leanings also played well to European and Canadian audiences.

George Bush, however, is reviled internationally as a "moron" and a "warmonger" and "arrogant" and a "unilateralist." But then to the liberals and intellectual elite, anyone who believes the Bible is Ð at the least Ð a moron.

Frankly, most of the international animosity toward Bush isn't his fault. The rest of the world learned how to hate George Bush from the liberal elitist-leaning American media.

So, I am not necessarily a wholehearted Bush supporter. But I am a pragmatist. If there were another pro-life, pro-family, pro-marriage, pro-Christian-ethics candidate out there, I'd certainly study him closely as a possible replacement for Bush Ð especially if he were well-liked domestically and internationally. But then if he had all of those qualities, he would also be the target of a hostile media dedicated to his political defeat.

If there were another candidate out there who I believed would do a better job of conducting the war on terror, he'd get my support.

If there was another candidate who had a chance of winning, who exhibited greater core principles of morality, one who showed a better understanding of the Bible Ð then that's the guy who should be sitting in the Oval Office on Jan. 20 of next year.

But, in American politics Ð whether one likes it or not Ð the reality is there are only two candidates who have a shot at the Brass Ring. One is George Bush. The other is John Kerry. So my choice is easy.




Hal Lindsey is the best-selling author of 20 books, including "Late Great Planet Earth." He writes this weekly column exclusively for WorldNetDaily.

Be sure to visit his website where he provides up-to-the-minute analysis of today's world events in the light of ancient prophecies.


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1 posted on 03/11/2004 8:00:52 AM PST by joesnuffy
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To: joesnuffy
It boils down to this-

Either George Bush or John Kerry will be elected president in November.

One candidate has some policies that many of us disagree with.
The other candidate is 100% opposed to values that we hold dear.
One pro-"choice", one pro-LIFE.
One for homosexual marriage, one against it.
One who preys, one who PRAYS.

We must put aside the things that are not to our preference in George Bush's presidency and work with all our might to preserve those things we agree upon.

Evangelical Christians hold the key to this next election.
Do NOT stay home and skip it.
Do NOT sqander your vote on a third party candidate with no chance of winning.
Our freedoms are at stake!
2 posted on 03/11/2004 8:14:14 AM PST by Knute
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To: joesnuffy
So, let me get this straight....President Bush is suppose to allow only white men that thinks Bush's God thoughts match theirs. He isn't suppose to be President of ALL citizens of this country, only the ones Hal Lindsey agrees with. Ok.And this worker thing, if finally dawned on me what he is after...he wants them to be identified without seeming to be racial about it.

President Bush always has alot more going behind the scenes than what we see, he has brought us through alot, and I for one am going to trust him.

In time, when my great-grandkids study history, I think he will be reguarded as one of the best, if not the best, president we have ever had.

3 posted on 03/11/2004 8:15:07 AM PST by Jewels1091
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To: joesnuffy
As a born-agin Christian and a Pastor with over 37 years in the ministry, I am so distraught by finicky believers when it comes to politics. Talk about biting your nose off to spite your face. If all of the true, Bible believing Christians united and voted for moral leadership, The libs wouldn't have a chance.
To all my Christian brothers and sisters: Just remember how 19% of America voted for Ross Perot and gave us eight years of Bill and Hillary Clinton. Perish the thought.
4 posted on 03/11/2004 8:15:20 AM PST by no dems
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To: joesnuffy
(Somehow half my post got lost above!) So, let me get this straight....President Bush is suppose to allow only white men that thinks Bush's God thoughts match theirs. He isn't suppose to be President of ALL citizens of this country, only the ones Hal Lindsey agrees with. Ok.

I don't agree with President Bush on all the issues, it would be almost scarey if I did. This man believes what he is doing. And it is his relegion that tells him to help all people, even those from Mexico...I think we should put a military style patrol on the border myself, but I understand where he is coming from.

And this worker thing, if finally dawned on me what he is after...he wants them to be identified without seeming to be racial about it.

President Bush always has alot more going behind the scenes than what we see, he has brought us through alot, and I for one am going to trust him.

In time, when my great-grandkids study history, I think he will be reguarded as one of the best, if not the best, president we have ever had.

5 posted on 03/11/2004 8:16:50 AM PST by Jewels1091
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To: joesnuffy
Chuck Baldwin is on the same page. As a result, I know at least one (very young) evangelical that is going to sit out this election. He argues that having Kerry in the WH is better than voting for someone less than perfect.

This is far too dangerous to ignore. We cannot afford a Kerry. I hate to think of the Americans that can die and liberties lost through this socialist, worldview man who thinks that the terrorists really aren't as bad as Bush paints them.

I'm working on the kid.
6 posted on 03/11/2004 8:17:07 AM PST by I still care
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To: Jewels1091
He isn't suppose to be President of ALL citizens of this country, only the ones Hal Lindsey agrees with.

Evidently Bush isn't a "real" or "true" Christian in the eyes of some people.

And for the life of me, I cannot find the country of Conservative on my world globe. I thought he was President of the United States of America.

It seems some people are determined that this country become a godless place by handing this country over to the liberals.

7 posted on 03/11/2004 8:20:40 AM PST by Howlin (Charter Member of the Incredible Interlocking Institutional Power!!!!)
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To: joesnuffy
That's because Clinton was extremely popular internationally

Because he was a authoritarian socialist like the rest of the world's leaders, willing to steal, lie and kill to maintain power and make a dollar.

8 posted on 03/11/2004 8:21:51 AM PST by alrea (Kerry and MacDonalds can stop obesity.)
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To: I still care
He argues that having Kerry in the WH is better than voting for someone less than perfect.

You're wasting your time on that kid.

9 posted on 03/11/2004 8:22:14 AM PST by Howlin (Charter Member of the Incredible Interlocking Institutional Power!!!!)
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To: joesnuffy
I find it most interesting that the arguments against Bush being a Christian cite some of the Christian acts that are less smart in the political arena - God told Moses not to treat aliens/foreigners bad because the Israelites knew what that was like under the Egyptians. Paul claims that the way to bring new folks to Jesus was not to castigate them (as many would have us do to the Muslim population) but to study them in order to become enough like them to find a chink to argue your point through.

It seems to me that the President has been more Christian than the Christians who argue against him, especially since some of it may not be politically expedient.

10 posted on 03/11/2004 8:23:50 AM PST by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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To: joesnuffy
Theological Triangulation??
11 posted on 03/11/2004 8:25:13 AM PST by Esther Ruth (God bless America - God Bless President George W Bush)
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To: I still care
The difficult question of George W. Bush

Nothing all that difficult about it. For all of Bush's spending (which drives me bonkers some days), John Kerry thinks government should spend still more and tax more. But the difference is absolutely crystal clear when it comes to the war on terror and foreign policy. Bush wants to treat it as a war, Kerry thinks we should try to serve legal documents on Osama. And Kerry thinks that Bush's election in Florida was illegitimate but Aristede's election in Haiti was democratic - despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary in both cases.

In some elections, I tend to agree that there is little difference between the Dem and the Pubbie. This is not one of those elections.

12 posted on 03/11/2004 8:25:35 AM PST by dirtboy (Howard, we hardly knew ye. Not that we're complaining, mind you...)
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To: joesnuffy
Before being elected to any office, and while he was in the oil business in West Texas, George Bush held regular men's morning prayer meetings in is home.

That type of devotion doesn't magically evaporate upon election to public office. He is what he is.

13 posted on 03/11/2004 8:31:38 AM PST by bayourod ( Kerry's 1st wife: $250M; 2nd wife: $700M; Mistress: priceless.)
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To: joesnuffy
The publishing of pipsqueak Savonarolas like Lindsay, whose Christianity is based on elitist but fringe doctrine, are one reason why I no longer read World Net Daily.

14 posted on 03/11/2004 8:40:54 AM PST by wildbill
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To: wildbill
Send Lindsey a check and he will be quite. This guy has been claiming the end times for the last 30 years and making money off of it. If he ever read the Bible he would know that the end times began with the resurrection.

Maybe WND can hire a theologian sometime. Michael Novak I'm sure would be happy to write a column for them. Replacing this Elmer Gantry.
15 posted on 03/11/2004 8:45:10 AM PST by Patrick1
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To: joesnuffy
I do not know how much of a Christian Bush is and I do not give a Kerryword
The only issue is
Will the Western Christian Civilization's survive or not
Vote Al Querry and see watt happens
16 posted on 03/11/2004 9:03:04 AM PST by 1903A3
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To: Patrick1
I've just read all of these responses to this article and I am amazed that not one reply indicated that they had even read the article, let alone understood it. He was saying that he was planning to vote for BUSH. As for his Biblical knowledge, there are few that know what replacement theology is, but many that subscribe to it. Maybe you should read the article before you comment on it.
17 posted on 03/11/2004 9:05:56 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV)
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To: Patrick1
This guy has been claiming the end times for the last 30 years and making money off of it.

Was this before, during, or after his 8 year run as the star of TV's Barney Miller?

Just wondering...................
18 posted on 03/11/2004 9:08:47 AM PST by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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To: no dems
Do you know what replacement theology is? Did you even read the article? His main concern in the article is the fact that Bush is treating Israel in a manner that goes against the Bible, i.e. "I will bless those that bless Israel and curse those that curse Israel".
Bush's roadmap would require that Israel give up control of the temple mount. How is that blessing Israel?
His last line in the article indicates he will vote for Bush and hold his nose.
19 posted on 03/11/2004 10:01:11 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV)
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To: antisocial
"Maybe you should read the article before you comment on it."

I agree with your assessment. Actually, if a candidate with all the qualities and strengths stated by Lindsay were on the ticket, I might vote for him/her also. However, like Lindsay, I don't have a difficult decision to make with regard to which candidate will get my vote.
20 posted on 03/11/2004 11:30:23 AM PST by rj45mis
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