'God particle' may have been seen

BBC News Online ^ | Wednesday, 10 March, 2004 | By Paul Rincon

[from occupied ga]

Get a life, leave me alone.

If you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen. If you whine and pine for more government spending and mourn the loss of giant porkbarrel projects then expect to get comments on it.

[Monty22]

There's no heat, except for that annoyance of having a mosquito buzzing your face nonstop.

[from occupied ga]

There's no heat, except for that annoyance of having a mosquito buzzing your face nonstop.

LOL Then you certaintly overreacted.

[Monty22]

No, it's just that you ruin otherwise fine threads with your anti-science rants. And that's a real shame too.

[from occupied ga]

No, it's just that you ruin otherwise fine threads with your anti-science rants. And that's a real shame too.

I see. I ruin threads when I post opinions contrary to your views. I guess that the only threads that aren't "ruined" are those where all of the posters agree 100% with your viewpoint. I didn't realize that FR was here solely for cheerleaders for government largesse and pork to post their viewpoints.

Let's see, so far you've done two really special democrat things. Cheered government spending, and tried to shut up someone who disagrees with you simply because they disagree with you.

Your version is:

We're working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption, and to champion causes which further conservatism expand government largesse give root to political fraud and corruption by whining about lost pork and champion causes which further statism in America.

[Monty22]

All I ask is for you to stop trolling please.

[from occupied ga]

All I ask is for you to stop trolling please.

Now I'm a troll for disagreeing with you. You really need to grasp the concept that unless your name is Jim Robinson it isn't you who gets to determine the content of the threads. All I ask is for you to go to DU and do your government cheerleading there.

[Monty22]

Who do you think you are? Calling me a DU'er over and over.

You're *blatantly* trolling.

[from occupied ga]

Calling me a DU'er over and over.

If the shoe fits...

[Monty22]

I bet you don't have a lot of friends.

[from occupied ga]

I bet you don't have a lot of friends.

What! You mean I can't count you?

[new cruelty]

What a fascinating thread.

[GOPJ]

Could this be the final piece of the puzzle?

Probably not. Puzzle pieces float to the next dimension-- gravity a strong force?

[m18436572]

Would you please explain that to the accountants? They're really getting out of control over here!

[PatrickHenry]

You're not trolling, and you're not anti-science either (as far as I can tell). But you're beating the issue of gov't funding of scientific research to death. We know your position. Many of us even understand it. And sympathize with it.

Personally, I don't object to defense-oriented research being funded by the feds. I see that as one of their few legitimate functions. The problem here, as in most things, is in knowing where to draw the line. Much of NASA's work is defense-oriented. But not all of it. I can't sort it all out, so I'm resolved to live with NASA. I don't want to cut it too close when it comes to our defense industries. Better too much of that than too little.

[from occupied ga]

They're really getting out of control over here!

LOL The fundamental law of physics is:
BEAN COUNTERS RULE THE UNIVERSE
and you don't need a supercollider to prove it.

[from occupied ga]

I don't object to defense-oriented research being funded by the feds.

I don't either. As far as beating it to death goes, my viewpoint is expressed a lot less often than the "gosh wow isn't NASA great let's give 'em even more money" viewpoint. Just trying for a bit of balance here.

[Havoc]

I haven't read everything on Einstein's theories; but, I'd imagine that mass might as well become infinite as friction
would invariably cause the energy required to increase speed to geometrically increase in proportion to the given resistance. The mass at some point might as well be infinite.

[RightWingAtheist]

From Cornell University's obituary of Fermilab founder Robert R. Wilson:

in 1969, when Wilson was in the hot seat testifying before the Congressional Joint Committee on Atomic Energy, Sen. John Pastore demanded to know how a multimillion-dollar particle accelerator improved the security of the country. Wilson said the experimental physics machine had "nothing at all" to do with security, and the senator persisted. "It has only to do," Wilson told the lawmakers, "with the respect with which we regard one another, the dignity of men, our love of culture. It has to do with: Are we good painters, good sculptors, great poets? I mean all the things we really venerate in our country and are patriotic about. It has nothing to do directly with defending our country except to make it worth defending."

[RightWingAtheist]

Last month I attended a speech given by a science historian at Georgia Tech (John Krige is his name, I believe), who gave a fascinating lecture on the creation of CERN. It turns out that Europe's greatest physics facility was actually an American intiative created under the Marshal Plan, not just to aid in the reconstruction of postwar Europe, but to ensure Western scientific superiority encourage scientists on the other side of the Iron Curtain to defect to the West. It was opposed by some of the leading scientists of the time such as Frederic Joliot and Patrick Blackett (both great scientists but unfortunately, also left-wing lunatics), who felt it would diminish the Soviet's industrial and military lead. Fortunately, saner men, such as Niels Bohr (who was privately anti-communist, although he wasn't as outspoken as, Teller or Von Neumann) and I. I. Rabi managed to rally enough support amongst the European scientific community to get the facility started.