Freep Baking: "we are nevertheless also many"

Spiegel (Germany) ^ | 09. March 2004 | Franc Patalong

[Constitution Day]

Freep baking
 
"we are nevertheless also many"

The report over Vote manipulations by users of a conservative US Website led to the manipulation of the manipulated Votes - and to a solid reader echo. While some welcome "Vote being", others remind deliberated handling Votes and expressions of opinion in the on-line journalism on.

At 17 o'clock on Monday registered the "Schulnoten" Vote to the presidency of George W. Bush accurately 38,449 voices. 59.6 per cent of it evaluated the US president with "unity", approximately 13 per cent with "six".

Even these numbers for itself taken already showed that this Vote was not normal: "pure already with statistic means", wrote Hans Wegener on Monday evening in a reader letter, "sees one that with the above inquiry something takes place. The distribution of the voices with maxima with the notes ' 1 ' and ' 6 ' (reverse bath tub curve) puts near that the co-ordinations disintegrate into two groups. From this observation it is an easy to arrive at the assumption that two extremes supply themselves in the political spectrum a tuning war."

_ so look the probably out, and so the article to manipulation the Bush Votes by reader the Weblogs "David criticism" and the conservative US Website "Free Republic" of much also understand: as request to strike back. "we are nevertheless also many", were called it in a reader letter, "show we it the Amis".

The result could be visited on Tuesday morning: At 9.25 o'clock registered the Vote 291,164 voices, whereby 29.38 per cent of Bush with "unity" evaluated and 59.04 per cent with "six". We can "freepen" evenly also: Quod erat demonstrandum?

MIRROR ON-LINE ONE: Did liver sausage insult?

Not few readers noticed in such a way: They felt the disclosure of the Vote manipulation as Retourkut against their causer. The subordinated motive: MIRROR ON-LINE ONE did not want to accept that a Vote results in a opinion, which does not fit the "positioning" of the assumed readership. That would be however rather cheap.

Other one reminded, which procedure shows nevertheless over-clearly, the Votes a "dubious means" are, which one cannot take seriously, never is representative - and therefore on a journalistic web page nothing to search has: "is inexpressible what? Purposeful falsifying of these tunings or perhaps even the tunings themselves, more unrepraesentativer not to be could be and for in good journalism no place should not?" (from a reader letter by Stefan shopkeeper)

	MIRROR ON-LINE ONE INQUIRY
Votes in the on-line journalism: Yes or no? Votes are with Machern and readers like. In addition, they are susceptible to falsifications. Should a journalistic offer use the means of the Votes or not?
	Yes: It belongs to the attractions of the InterNet for Medienmacher and readers that such communication forms are possible. Votes are "part OF the fun". One must make clear that they are not representative
	No: Votes obtain the impression of respectable opinions, are however falsification-endangered. They do not have to look for anything in journalistic offers
	Undecided, no opinion

A minority criticized the criticism at the behavior of those, which had called for Vote manipulation: That is nevertheless probably legitimate, one can its readership evenly not select itself. "your tuning achieved, wrote not the desired result" reader Peter Kneer. "the co-ordination however falsification to subordinate joins easy the left democracy understanding. A citizen of age is only that, that its cross a little linkslastig sets."

[Constitution Day]

Going partly violently to the thing, part zwei.

Original thread:
You need tons click "co-ordinating" (Free Republic - The conservative click Guerilla)

Thanks to Brasil for pointing out the follow up on the other thread.

[Constitution Day]

[Frank_Discussion]

Yes, I would say the Sprockets aren't matching up too well in this translation...

[TheBigB]

Ach du lieber! :-)

[Fierce Allegiance]

the co-ordination however falsification to subordinate joins easy the left democracy understanding. A citizen of age is only that, that its cross a little linkslastig sets

Damn, i need a babelfish translation of the translation!

[Fierce Allegiance]

Icht ben ein FReeper.

[Constitution Day]

Did liver sausage insult?

[TheBigB]

Did liver sausage insult?

??????

[dighton]

Did liver sausage insult? Cross a little linkslastig sets!

[Constitution Day]

Check about midway in the article.

[TheBigB]

Kerry is a crack sausage. Did we insult him? Are we liver? I must know these things if I am to get my mind back on work. :)

[mrsmith]

Otto Krueger posted an accurate translation of this article last night: HERE

(I love the babelfish translation though- socialists make more sense when they're mistranslated!)

[Constitution Day]

Show we it the Amis.

[Constitution Day]

Shoot, I missed that. Sorry!

[BlueLancer]

"Did liver sausage insult?"

No, but the hassenpfeffer was downright rude to my Møøsë and smacked my bratwürst!

(Which can be downright painful and is causing me to walk funny ....)

[stainlessbanner]

We can "freepen" evenly also

[Cyber Liberty]

I'm having an "All Your Base" moment....

[TheBigB]

Hassenpfeffer smacks can be nasti. Or so I hear.

[Tijeras_Slim]

That's fine and good, but don't say "Kraut". :)

[Constitution Day]

Crap, you beat me to it.