Immigration reality eludes GOP

Arizona Republic ^ | 7 March 2004 | Randy Pullen

[Spiff]

Unfortunately for Rep. Jeff Flake, he apparently has lost contact with his conservative roots in Arizona. In reading his column "Bush offers migrant plan conservatives can support," I noted several inaccuracies and misstatements that cannot go unchallenged.

Conservatives and most liberals do value national security and controlling our borders. Recently conducted polls overwhelming support the enforcement of our immigration laws, including KAET-TV/ASU, GOPUSA, ProjectUSA, News/Insight Magazine and FrontPage Magazine.

[Paul Ross]

They are trying to do wedge politics against the Republicans. And it is working, on a number of issues. The BushBots have gotten rather silent lately.

Of course, this would all be avoidable if GWB had not made himself vulnerable to this wedge politics. The RATs don't need to advance any wedges of their own...just emblazon the President's own abandonments of law and principle on immigration and profligate domestic spending for the sake of whatever, and make it clear to his base that he indeed is willfully ignoring them.

At this point, he has fallen into the same pit as his father. Many, many people here in Minnesota have told me they are just too depressed to go vote for him. He has committed political hari-kari. Susan Estrich was right, when she said on Fox News: "George Bush beats George Bush."

Perhaps the only thing he could do is if he PUBLICLY abandoned his unholy pact with Mexico, ...repudiating Fox, and APOLOGIZED to the base for his pandering to the special interest voting blocs and heavy-duty campaign contributors.

I expect to still be voting for GWB, but we can at least rain on his warm fuzzies he is planning for his convention.

[judgeandjury]

There are federal privacy laws regarding social sec. (imagine ID thieves being able to get the personal data with a simple phone call)

There is already a system in place for employers, by using their federal employer number and a password, to access Social Security information over the Internet in order to verify Social Security data. And no, a thief can't simply call the Social Security Administration to get personal data on others. The SSA doesn't give out personal data to anybody without first verifying that the person making the request has the need and the right to acquire that data.

If you have to question each document then there is no point in issuing those doucments.

It is an employer's responsibility to question each document in order to verify that the job applicant is legally allowed to work in the U.S. Unfortunately, many employers don't carry out their responsibility in regard to verifying ID and documents from job applicants.

[longtermmemmory]

For purposes of complying with the law, an employer just needs a valid gov. ID and social security card. The law is satisfied.

Usually the employer will eventually be notified if the number does not conect to the name, eventually.

HOWEVER, there is no detective work required to be in compliance with the law.

[swampfox98]

Vicente Fox comes along and starts twisting his arm

And I wonder just what Bush is getting from Fox in this sellout? Could it be that Fox is telling the illegals to vote for Bush in 04, and is this only one of many reasons Bush is selling us out?

Fox has already directed the illegals to vote both at home in Mexico, and here in the US. If you ask me, Fox has run the US since Bush became president. I don't know if I can go on and vote for Bush. He is destroying the country and breaking the laws.

[hosepipe]

[ Immigration reality eludes GOP ]

UNLESS... they know exactely what they want to do, and are doing it.. THATS whats scary... giving the republican officials a pass on this is granting an elephant sized pass.. on top of other elephant sized passes ALREADY GIVEN... as you step into elephant plop..