Kerry killed civilians

bttt!

I just finished reading Douglas Brinkley's book "Tour of Duty." Senator Kerry supplied most of the material about Kerry's war experiences in Vietnam, and Brinkley adds snippets from other published sources (mostly from a leftist perspective, but excluding extensive coverage by the Communist Party newspaper Daily World, which glorified Kerry's antiwar activities in 1971.) Anyway, I was particularly interested in knowing the details of the three Purple Hearts that Kerry was awarded for supposed combat wounds.

Most of the men that I knew personally or read about were dead on their third Purple Heart wound in Vietnam. I am an Army veteran, and most combat units had strict rules prohibiting Rambo wannabes from claiming the Purple Heart for scratches from shrapnel that could be covered with a Band-Aid.

Brinkley writes about Kerry's first Purple Heart on pp. 146-148. The so-called action happened on December 2, 1968 in the DaNang area. Brinkley's description is glaringly vague, and Brinkley does not report any other crewmen being injured. Kerry didn't need any hospitalization for that injury, which most Army and Marine combat veterans would find suspicious. Wags might call this event Kerry's personal Gulf of Tonkin incident.

The second Purple Heart wound was on February 20, 1969 in the Delta, covered on pp. 280-288. There was enemy action recorded in detail, and Kerry had another minor shrapnel wound, for which he did not need hospitalization. Again, he was the only one injured. Why is he the only one very slightly wounded?

The third Purple Heart was on March 13, 1969, also in the Delta. It was a legitimate combat wound from my reading of Brinkley's description of the action on pp. 304-317. If I read this section carefully, Kerry was the only one injured on his Swift boat. Brinkley records others injured on other boats in the engagement.

So, inquiring minds must be pondering: which came first, Kerry reading Navy regs to learn that if you had three awards of the Purple Heart you could get out of Vietnam pronto; or, a deliberate strategy on his part to get his return ticket punched a third time so he could abandon his crewmates and bug out after only four months in a combat zone?

On 3-7-04 C-SPAN had a taped program of Douglas Brinkley talking before a group of veterans and their friends in California about "Tour of Duty," including Kerry crewmate Michael Medeiros, who was asked by Brinley to talk about some of the enemy action. Mike seems like a very normal, well-adjusted veteran, proud of his wartime service, and definitely not a wanton killer that Kerry characterized all Vietnam veterans in his Congressional testimony in April, 1971. Medeiros mentioned that his fellow crewmates all returned alive at the end of their individual tours of duty. Medeiros made no comments about Kerry leaving eight months early on the third Purple Heart technicality.

Brinkley goes on to paint a very sympathetic portrait of Kerry's antiwar activities in 1971 and thereafter. Most disappointing to this conservative reader was the absence of anything about how the antiwar activities of Kerry and Jane Fonda were used by the North Vietnamese to demoralize our POWs in Hanoi and also in the jungles in the South, and kept them captive under brutal conditions for two more years until the combined diplomatic and military policies of President Nixon resulted in the release of our POWs in 1973.

" The second Purple Heart wound was on February 20, 1969 in the Delta, covered on pp. 280-288. There was enemy action recorded in detail, and Kerry had another minor shrapnel wound, for which he did not need hospitalization. Again, he was the only one injured. Why is he the only one very slightly wounded? "

"The third Purple Heart was on March 13, 1969, also in the Delta. It was a legitimate combat wound from my reading of Brinkley's description of the action on pp. 304-317. If I read this section carefully, Kerry was the only one injured on his Swift boat. Brinkley records others injured on other boats in the engagement "

Kerry is the ONLY ONE INJURED-on 2 separate occasions and this hasn't raised any red flags ??? You have to wonder if Kerry's crewmates had any idea what Kerry was doing behind the scenes, as far as putting in for medals, writing reports etc.
There is a real stench around Kerry-it is becoming obvious, to those the least bit interested in following the story, that Kerry's wartime actions need to be scrutinized, as much as his post service activities.
The media has one source for all of Kerry's heroics- Kerry himself.
Kerry must authorize the military to release his full military record.

In the Boston Globe series- there were always two distinct versions of a number of firefights- the crew's memory and Kerry's version. Kerry has pimped his crewmates and it's a shame that they just sit back and take it.
I haven't had a chance to read it yet, but, apparently Time.com has an update on Kerry's crew-there was a 10th crewmember that Brinkley missed and he interviews this man. The man's recollections of Kerry's actions are not complimentary, which is why they have recieved so little notice.
I received this yesterday. I can't access the AF database, so I can't vouch for the authenticity of the parties. But, I trust those who sent it to me.

KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA - HONORING A TRAITOR

This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and
didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older
brothers and sisters had to bear. Jane Fonda is being nominated as one of
the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and
still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the
idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during
Vietnam.

The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry
Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival
School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a
stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was
ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient
and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed,
and dragged away.

During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's
feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered
from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the
Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.

>From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6
years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action".
His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the
cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation"
visit.

They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that
they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN
on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a
cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little
encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are
you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?"
Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of
paper.

She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once
the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she
turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers.
Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost
number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her
actions that day.

I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured
by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for
over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a
cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North
Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary,
a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in
the jungle near the Cambodian border.

At the time, I weighed approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170
lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."

When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, the camp communist political officer asked me
if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would
like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received; different from
the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane
Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a
rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel
placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped. I
had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I
was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She
did not answer me.

This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years
of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never
include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many
patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but
Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.

Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It
will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will
never forget.

RONALD D. SAMPSON, CMSgt, USAF
716 Maintenance Squadron, Chief of Maintenance
DSN: 875-6431
COMM: 883-6343

PLEASE HELP BY SENDING THIS TO EVERYONE IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK. IF ENOUGH
PEOPLE SEE THIS MAYBE HANOI JANE'S STATUS WILL CHANGE.

DAVID M COUNTS, MSgt, USAF retired.

Who are his crewmen?

Interesting. I thought it just happened when you got three awards; it turns out you had to request it.

So, Mr. "brave" Kerry actually wasn't so brave after all and decided to take a hike after getting his medals? Interesting...

Are you saying that Kerry may have been the one who reccommended his own purple hearts???!!!

Now that is a story.

I must confess that this dude is getting me excited with the crap that can be dug up and reported about him. Wow.

Was it automatic or did you have to request to be sent home?

If the latter like someone said earlier, this is another thing that can be used against him.

will have to check out the Time article.

It sounds like Kerry may have paid or did something to get the rest of the crew to shut up.

So, Mr. "brave" Kerry actually wasn't so brave after all and decided to take a hike after getting his medals? Interesting...

Kerry wasn't smart enough to figure out a way to get out of going to Nam entirely, but he did figure out a way to make his stay as short as possible.

Kerry no hero in ex-crewman's eyes