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To: Joe Bonforte
I thought one of the major tenets of conservatism was respect for established ideas that have been shown to pass the test of time.

And a major tenent of being intelligent is that one changes a behavior that has ceased to work.

15 posted on 03/06/2004 1:50:41 PM PST by neutrino (Oderint dum metuant: Let them hate us, so long as they fear us.)
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To: neutrino
And a major tenent of being intelligent is that one changes a behavior that has ceased to work.

And how has it ceased to work? The United States is the wealthiest nation in the history of the planet. Our "poor people" suffer from obesity, and the average American lives in conditions better than the richest people in the world one hundred years ago.

So how has anything "ceased to work"? You keep talking about problems, but you seem completely unwilling to bring up specifics.

This fits in with my general experience with anti-free-trade types. Their "evidence" is all anecdotal, and they can never come up with numbers on their side that represent anything other than very short-term fluctuations (say over a year or two).

Hey, it's not enough to say "I lost my job", or "my neighbor's cousin's dentist knows a guy whose lost his job because of NAFTA". The nature of our economy means jobs are being lost all the time. That's what makes it so successful! Unlike Europe, we don't try to sweep back the tide. Instead, we look to the future and new kinds of jobs and economic activity.

Yes, some people get hurt in the turnover. But the aggregate benefit is huge. Bush tried to protect steelworkers with tariffs, and the studies show 1.5-2 jobs lost for every job protected. Are you in favor of that?

25 posted on 03/06/2004 3:00:45 PM PST by Joe Bonforte
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