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To: realpatriot71
"LOL! Really? What do most people pay for insurance premiums?"

I addressed this issue. The premiums are higher for smokers. Significantly higher, and if they are dishonest they lose coverage. I didn't say "just paying taxes". Take a hooked on phonics class.

"I'm not trying to dictate anything - enjoy your smokes - just don't ask me to help with your healthcare. If you have your own insurance then I've got no problem with you or your smokes"

That is so nice of you to allow me to make personal decisions and to take responsibility for myself. If you truly feel this way, the consumption tax support you espouse wouldn't be so evidently the opposit of this statement.

"Kiss my ass - I have not advocating stopping your "personal freedom," nor have I increased the size of government. If anything I'm proposing making igovernment smaller. Don't hire public servants who smoke - less health problems - less paper work, etc."

While supporting consumption taxes, or at minnimum being indifferent to them, in one thread then supporting eliminating applicants who consume the taxable items from the job pool in this thread you show yourself to be indifferent (at minnimum) to government growth and personal liberty infringements. Your logic is skewed, any tax is growth of government, any infringement on personal behaviour by government is growth of government.

"Know what? When the JBT's kick down your door and arrest you for smoking cigarettes get back to me."

How does that go? When they came for the Jews, I didn't fight, when they came for me there was no one left to fight. Once again, the only power the government has is with the barrell of a gun! Try not paying a parking ticket, what will happen? First a warrant will be issued, then the police will try to apprehend you. If you run, the barrell of a gun will be used, either by threat or by its intended purpose!

"It's your temple, treat it how you will, but remember we will give account to God for every careless action and word."

Your judgemental attitude is why I personally draw a MAJOR distinction between being a christian and being a church goer. Human beings are not in a position to judge other human beings with the eyes of God. Many forget that and think themselves spiritually "superior" to the rest of us.
194 posted on 03/08/2004 7:33:23 AM PST by CSM (Looking for a stay at home mom for my future offspring!)
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To: CSM
I addressed this issue. The premiums are higher for smokers. Significantly higher, and if they are dishonest they lose coverage. I didn't say "just paying taxes". Take a hooked on phonics class.

AND who pays the premiums of public servants? And the higher premiums of said civil servant smokers? Magic gnomes?

If you truly feel this way, the consumption tax support you espouse wouldn't be so evidently the opposit of this statement.

Wrong. You have no gaurantee to "reasonable prices" on bad habits. You want to smoke - fine - pay for it.

When they came for the Jews, I didn't fight, when they came for me there was no one left to fight.

Surely you're not equating the Holocaust with a sales tax on cigarettes, right?

Your judgemental attitude is why I personally draw a MAJOR distinction between being a christian and being a church goer. Human beings are not in a position to judge other human beings with the eyes of God. Many forget that and think themselves spiritually "superior" to the rest of us.

I'm not judging you, merely pointing out that the body is the Temple of the Holy Spirit - God - hurting the Temnple of God is a sin - a spade's a spade - God judges, not me. I'm just pointing out His word. It's not my fault the body if the Temple of the Holy Ghost. If this "gores your ox" you can take it up with the "Big Guy". I am "spiritually superior" to NO MAN. In fact, if I am least in Everlasting, it would not surprise me.

195 posted on 03/08/2004 7:46:55 AM PST by realpatriot71 ("A Republic, madam, if you can keep it" - Ben Franklin, 1787)
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