Double drink prices, urges doctors -

The Telegraph - UK ^ | March 5, 2004 | Celia Hall

[Damagro]

oops, didn't read your full post before responding. My bad

[tje]

They have nothing to worry about...

[Damagro]

I'm glad we moved to a small farm - I'll start growing my own tobacco and then start adding the beer making crops.......


Just be advised that tobacco is a controlled crop. You are allowed to grow up to one acre for personal use and there are other controls on even that.

[freeeee]

No problem. I had similar thoughts when posting that - government isn't paying anything - taxpayers are.

That's the *funny* part. They take your money, then tell you how to live, with the power of your cash.

[Gabz]

I believe it is only 1/10 of an acre for personal use. You are correct about there being controls on it - only because the grabament doesn't want to lose out on all the cash they make from it.

I'm just going to experiment with it this year - I've never done it before - so I don't think I'm going to need to worry too much about big Brother decending upon - after all I do live in Virginia!

[shrinkermd]

Consistent studies show over one-half of all alcohol is consumed by problem drinkers. This proposal will not solve that: what will happen is bootleg entrepreneurs will avoid the taxes and supply the market.

[vetvetdoug]

I am going to add to my stock. The older it gets, the better it tastes. Looks like as good as investment as Enron, Worldcom and Matha Stoowert.

[swarthyguy]

The older it gets, the better it tastes.

Hey, this discussion is about liquor. Leave my sweetie outofit, willya.

[kingu]

"A 10 per cent rise in the price of all alcoholic beverages has been estimated to reduce mortality from alcohol-related conditions by seven to 37 per cent."

A thirty percent swing? Yeah, right. Absolute junk science alert here.

But hey, let's look at this objectively.. Uhh, let's see, where's the figure for the average proof per litre? I know it has to be somewhere in the article..

Still looking...

It's gotta be somewhere here, after all, a near 50% increase in drinking, it couldn't be because people switched from hard liquors to beer and wine..

Huh. Odd that, can't seem to find the figure in here. I mean, they'd have to be using the same figures to compare with, right?

Useless bunk, the whole story, with no data to support the conclusions, a wild supposition as to what would happen. Ooh, I know, let's have a war on drugs, raise the street price on drugs and see if people.. Err... Oh, right, that didn't work either.

[VadeRetro]

When your Guiness looks like that to you, you've had enough. Not enough for a night, enough for a week.

[Damagro]

An acquaintance here planted cotton along the sides of their driveway a couple of years ago for ornamental reasons. Came home one afternoon to find both sides of the drive tilled up ten feet either side of the drive. Moral of the story: be very careful and check with your local ag agent when it's controlled crops

[vetvetdoug]

My family is from McNairy County, Tennessee. We make Thunder Road look like a bunch of soda fountains. We still have some entrepreneurs that make the wild stuff and its smoothe as silk. Prohibition will do nothing but bring out the old boys.

[vetvetdoug]

Do you need a second opinion? It really helps.

[Gabz]

I know exactly what you are saying. I have already planned on going to see the ag agent - only because I don't know what I'm doing!!!!

I realize I'm coming across as being flip - but I'm really not - I do appreciate your cautionary advice.

I just get so fed up with more and more rules, regulations and TAXES on whatever happens to be the politically correct thing (or people) to harass at a given moment. And lately it just seems I've been getting it from all sides - I drink, I smoke cigarettes, I'm conservative, I'm a stay at home mom who is happily married to the father of her child.......sheesh in this day and age it seems I can't win for losing!!!!

[socal_parrot]

I just don't like it....

Four Buck Chuck just doesn't have the same ring to it.

[MEGoody]

Nah, don't want the government doing this. I am all for neighborhood vigilante groups though. The drunk that beats his wife, neglects his kids and is always causing trouble in the neighborhood gets a visit from the 'neighbors,' and he never touches another drop.

[KC_for_Freedom]

just get so fed up with more and more rules, regulations and TAXES on whatever happens to be the politically correct thing (or people) to harass at a given moment. And lately it just seems I've been getting it from all sides - I drink, I smoke cigarettes, I'm conservative, I'm a stay at home mom who is happily married to the father of her child.......sheesh in this day and age it seems I can't win for losing!!!!

Or to put it another way, It used to be a free country. I'm with you on who to blame though, Its the liberals who think we should all be healthy because we share so much of everyone's medical costs. Well, I pay my own medical costs, (and through high prices, a lot of other people's too.) But a few drinks or a smoke sure lowers the stress level, otherwise I might go out and do something about all this government control. And before anyones says it, I know the libs really want total control and that is where they are headed.)

[Damagro]

A stay at home mom married to the child's father? You my friend are truly a minority. Be careful, you may be seized for a Smithsonian exhibit

[Gabz]

I don't think I can really add to what you say.

[swarthyguy]

I'd tell you to put a cork in it! :))