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To: Mamzelle
"Bethlehem's been cleaned out of Christians. Of course, it wasn't the Jews who cleaned them out."

While I respect much of the clarity and precision of your commentary on this thread, this particular comment suggests that it was the Muslims who pushed the Christians out of Bethlehem. I happen to know a lot of Palestinian Christians here in NY(some recent arrivals) and their views are quite different from what you appear to suggest.

Christians-- whether Arab or Armenian in origin-- started moving out of Bethlehem subsequent to the creation of Israel. This exodus has accelerated in recent years because of the enormous economic consequences of war and occupation.

Pre-1948, Bethlehem was still majority Christian. Afterwards, it became a recruiting hub for the PLO which was,after all, an organization partially founded and inspired by Arab Christians.

999 posted on 03/05/2004 10:33:44 PM PST by Hamza01
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To: Hamza01
re: I happen to know a lot of Palestinian Christians here in NY(some recent arrivals) and their views are quite different from what you appear to suggest.)))

I've known only a few Lebanese and Palestinian Christians, and Christians of Lebanese and Palestinian descent--and these, sadly enough, were the only authentic antisemites I have ever known in America other than Muslims. (That is, their hatred of Jews was a foundation and feature of their worldview, not simply a matter of being occasionally annoyed, irritated, disappointed or offended.) I took my impression from that--and the stunning rapidity from which Bethlehem's evacuation has taken place in the last two or three years. I believe it had more to do with the occupation of the traditional nativity church than anything else--the writing on the wall.

Still, I believe Jews were safer with these sorts of neighbors than the Arabs who have since replaced them.

Tradtionalist, conservative Christians such as myself do not hold out much hope for a political or diplomatic solution for the "Palestinian Problem"--and a world/UN which found it OK for Muslims to occupy Serbian land will never find it OK for Jews to occupy Jewish land where Muslims happen to live. We know who wrote the deed, but haven't a clue who will enforce the title.

1,033 posted on 03/06/2004 6:40:00 AM PST by Mamzelle
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