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To: SoCar
So what you mean is that I am doomed to eternal damnation unless I accept as the truth what you do. That's what you mean right?

Can't speak for others on this thread, but fyi what the Catholic Church teaches is that all salvation is through, with, and in Jesus. The Church does not teach that those who don't know Jesus are inevitably damned, however. We are content with the idea that God is merciful and that his salvation is not absolutely foreclosed from those who love the truth and pursue it conscientiously and with purity of heart. How salvation may come to such people is largely a mystery, but while we declare the substantial impediments facing those who lack the fullness of faith, we do not deny the theoretical possibility that they may be saved. What we do declare OTOH is that no one who rejects Christianity after having been persuaded in conscience of its truthfulness can be saved -- not because God is spiteful but because he's faithful to his own creation of us as images of him posessing freedom to choose between life and death. God being the ultimate truth, whoever knowingly rejects the truth rejects God and his gifts.

943 posted on 03/05/2004 9:16:25 PM PST by Romulus ("Behold, I make all things new")
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To: Romulus
What of those who "know" Jesus, but disagree with his divinity? Is the word "know" mean having been exposed to, or does "know" mean having experienced a leap of faith, and then one acts in defiance of His authority with mens rea? I thought the traditional teaching was the former, in which event, I'm going to hell, without passing go. Has the Catholic Church really made this otherwise vague ambiguity cyrstal clear now?
948 posted on 03/05/2004 9:21:02 PM PST by Torie
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To: Romulus
OTOH is that no one who rejects Christianity after having been persuaded in conscience of its truthfulness can be saved -- not because God is spiteful but because he's faithful to his own creation of us as images of him poses sing freedom to choose between life and death. God being the ultimate truth, whoever knowingly rejects the truth rejects God and his gifts.

So what you are saying is that Christianity, what you believe, is the "truth" and that no one who does not believe as you do, for instance Jews like myself, can ever be saved. What you are saying is that all non Christians are going to hell for not accepting Christ as their Lord and Savior, right?? No matter how good a person they might be?? What you are saying is that I am "wrong" and am doomed, as are all Jews, and if we do not accept Christ we will burn in Hell. Right??

961 posted on 03/05/2004 9:38:23 PM PST by SoCar (Huckabee's "Tax Me More Fund" needs to spread!)
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