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To: Forgiven_Sinner
Christian beliefs do not threaten me in any way. We will all find out one day who is right. What does annoy me though is the Christian belief that no matter how morally a G-d fearing person one may be, if you don't accept Christ as your savior you are doomed to hell

The G-d that I worship will accept all those who are good and not abandon those who whose mortal beliefs regarding the acceptance of Christ as their savior turn out to be correct or not.

In short, your religion dooms me to eternal damnation because I am "wrong," while my religion accepts you as a good person although you are "wrong." I am not threatened by that. I do however resent and reject it though. It seems condescending and not worthy to me, IMHO.

920 posted on 03/05/2004 8:52:30 PM PST by SoCar (Huckabee's "Tax Me More Fund" needs to spread!)
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To: SoCar
What does annoy me though is the Christian belief that no matter how morally a G-d fearing person one may be, if you don't accept Christ as your savior you are doomed to hell

Why does a Christian's belief annoy you if you are truly secure in your Faith?

If they do annoy you, how can you say that you respect our beliefs?

925 posted on 03/05/2004 8:57:17 PM PST by Abundy
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To: SoCar
I too dissent from the Christian belief, or those of some Christians, although I think it has been watered down, that their way, is the only way to heaven for those who have been exposed to the Christian message, even those others who believe in God, and try to follow his teachings. Such is life. Not everybody subsribes to a more universalist Bhuddist approach. But then I don't think there is a heaven in all probability. We are all going to return to dust, and leave only memories, and the residue of our works on this mortal coil.

In any event, my best advice is to accept Christians as trying to do good, in a loving way, however misguided per your compass or mine, and realize that in this great land of ours, we in the end, will all choose our own way, without coercion, and protected from such by not only the force of law, but the very and essential ethos upon which this land was created and consecrated. I trust the good spirit of most of my fellow citizens, to let me find my own way.

927 posted on 03/05/2004 9:02:24 PM PST by Torie
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To: SoCar
Yes, the idea that everyone who dies who is not a Christian is condemned seems to be unscriptural to me. God is not limited to this life to save people. The scripture it violates is:

Ezekiel 33:9 Then he said to me, "Prophesy to the breath; prophesy, son of man, and say to it, 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe into these slain, that they may live.' " 10 So I prophesied as he commanded me, and breath entered them; they came to life and stood up on their feet-a vast army.

11 Then he said to me: "Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel. They say, 'Our bones are dried up and our hope is gone; we are cut off.'

12 Therefore prophesy and say to them: 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: O my people, I am going to open your graves and bring you up from them; I will bring you back to the land of Israel. 13 Then you, my people, will know that I am the LORD , when I open your graves and bring you up from them. 14 I will put my Spirit in you and you will live, and I will settle you in your own land. Then you will know that I the LORD have spoken, and I have done it, declares the LORD .' "

Here we have the slain of Israel resurrected. They died without hope. God says specifically He will resurrect them, and put His Spirit in them, and put them in their land. This sounds like salvation being offered after death to me. And if God offers it to the unsaved of Israel, will he not also offer it to the rest of mankind?

This interpretation is not widely accepted. But I have never seen it refuted.

The ones condemned to hell fire in the New Testement are those who know Jesus, and then reject Him. See Romans 1.
931 posted on 03/05/2004 9:05:55 PM PST by Forgiven_Sinner (Praying for the Kingdom of God.)
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