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Welcome to the ____hole. I think there are about six of us on all of FR. I commend you on that swandive. Stupendous. I would like only to add the word 'misinterpreted' as a qualifier to your 'christian'.

Those here who hold that Hitler alone is responsible for the holocaust are very wrong. He may have been the orchestrator but he had plenty of musicians to play with and a largely uncritical audience.

Please keep that F--N Hitler out of this. We have a peaceful life with perfect harmony between Christians and Jews, and now, Mel Gibson makes this movie, and all of a sudden, he has no freedom of speech, no artistic freedom of expression, and all Christians become the subject of attack as anti-Semitic! That is a plain unfair, and unacceptable. Liberal dudes from the N.Y. Times can slam Mel, but conservative dudes like William Safire, and Charles Krauthammer simply illustrates that these losers are of one track mind, and their allegiance is not the American people, but to the American people as they support their cause only. Life is a give and take, these losers are the take only, and never give!

Thanks, the "water" is great! I hope no one thinks, though, that I've got it in for Christians or Christianity. I think that after a few heated exchanges, some of which fall short of the initial thread, that's the impression one might get--but it isn't so. And I'm not Jewish, so don't think that's what motivates me. But I look at this movie issue from the same perspective as I look at the Confederate flag dispute. Many black Americans are genuinely offended by the flag, and not without good reason, even allowing for the fact that there are some who just want to use it to race-bait. I think it's tasteless and offensive to wave the flag in their faces, just as I think it tasteless and offensive for Gibson to throw a movie like this into the faces of those Jews who, not unjustly, find it disturbing--especially when I strongly suspect that his motives were far less noble than he lets on. But let everyone take it as he wishes.