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To: rbmillerjr
Perhaps the official party line in Rome (Vatican) was not to name Jews as Christ killers. On the lower local levels this was done all the time without reprimand and lead to pogroms and a holocausts. Why else do you think the Vatican II conclave did away with the Christ killer libel (collective guilt, persecution for all Jews) for good?


590 posted on 03/05/2004 8:49:42 AM PST by dennisw (“The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.”)
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To: dennisw
..."Perhaps the official party line in Rome (Vatican) was not to name Jews as Christ killers. On the lower local levels this was done all the time without reprimand and lead to pogroms and a holocausts. "...

The authority of the Catholic Church is what it says...it has authority over all clergy and lay who claim to be Catholic.........Also, your claim that the Holocaust was due to anything the Catholic Church did is a giant leap of logic (see Hitler and Nazi Germany)

..."Why else do you think the Vatican II conclave did away with the Christ killer libel (collective guilt, persecution for all Jews) for good?..."

Vatican II included many, many objectives and changes. As to the Jewish objectives, it was a restating of the already stated due to the Anti-Semitism that existed throughout Europe, of which there are many Catholics. It was a reaching out to Jews as well in an affirmative manner.

599 posted on 03/05/2004 8:57:14 AM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: dennisw
On the lower local levels this was done all the time without reprimand and lead to pogroms and a holocausts.

It's a favorite tactic of Catholic bashers to blame the Church for being alternately too authoritarian and not authoritarian enough.

610 posted on 03/05/2004 9:18:21 AM PST by Romulus ("Behold, I make all things new")
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