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To: rbmillerjr
But, Dennis, the historical truth is that Jews handed Christ over to the Romans for the purpose of killing him. Are you denying the historical facts of that reality?

Holy cow! You're blowing it big time. The party line today is that some Jews handed Christ over to the Romans for the purpose of killing him. And I don't deny that certain Jews (Pharisees) helped to kill Christ. Same as I can see Jews being named as and persecuted as Christ killers for centuries.

546 posted on 03/05/2004 8:13:58 AM PST by dennisw (“The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.”)
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To: dennisw
"Same as I can see Jews being named as and persecuted as Christ killers for centuries."


"IF" this is what you have claimed there would be no argument, however you have cleaned this up. Up til this statement you used the word CHRISTIANS.

Get it! Christ did not instruct CHRISTIANS to do what you have claimed they "Christians" have done. This accusation will not be hung on Christ. HE never SINNED. MAN is SIN!
553 posted on 03/05/2004 8:19:31 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: dennisw
"...Holy cow! You're blowing it big time. The party line today is that some Jews handed Christ over to the Romans for the purpose of killing him. And I don't deny that certain Jews (Pharisees) helped to kill Christ. Same as I can see Jews being named as and persecuted as Christ killers for centuries"

No, I'm not blowing anything. I'm telling the truth. It is you who seems to have a sense of collective guilt. We Christians believe that our sins killed Jesus. That is our theological perspective.

Historically, Jews and Romans killed Jesus. Yes, some Jews are more accurate but rather a technical point when you look at it from the historical perspective.
554 posted on 03/05/2004 8:19:50 AM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: dennisw
These discussions have been a real eye-opener - - not just for me, I'm sure. Your FR homepage has a US flag and a lot of statements to imply "we're all in this together" against the Moslems. But now it comes out that you really resent - - may I say despise - - Christianity, the faith of most of the Americans who are fighting Islamic extremists.
559 posted on 03/05/2004 8:25:19 AM PST by churchillbuff (?)
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