[GretchenEE]

Gibson's personal interpretation is spectacularly vicious. Three of the Gospels have but a one-line reference to Jesus's scourging [In God's economy, in the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established. Three are enough for God the Father]. The fourth has no reference at all. In Gibson's movie this becomes 10 minutes of the most unremitting sadism in the history of film.

The bloodthirst of Christ's tormentors and murderers is very accurately prophesied through the Old Testament: two examples are Psalm 22 and Isaiah 53, but there are others; and the agony Christ suffered is likewise covered in these ancient texts. Gibson didn't just the Gospels as his only historical reference; he used the Old Testament prophecies and historical facts about scourging and crucifixion. Since when is it anti-Semitic to use accepted historical facts to re-tell history?

Further, Scripture states clearly that the devil left Jesus after tempting Him (unsuccessfully) in the desert to return "at a more opportune time." One could scarcely characterize the Garden of Gethsemane as anything other than a more opportune time.

filmmaker whose public pronouncements on the Holocaust are as chillingly ambiguous and carefully calibrated as that of any sophisticated Holocaust denier.

HOGWASH. Mel emphatically stated in a recent prime time interview with Diane Sawyer that the holocaust happened and that millions of Jews died in it.

Kraut lost it here, IMO.

[MEG33]

I am sorely troubled by Kraut's attack.I have saved some of his writing as I consider him so right most of the time.I am sad.Christ was a Jew,his followers were Jews,his Disciples were Jews.

[7thson]

There was a made for television movie concerning Jesus that was on the air about five or six years ago. It was a two nighter job. In the tv movie, Satan comes to Jesus to tempt him in the desert. I thought it was a rather unique interpretation - while Jesus is in the clothes of his time, Satan appears in modern dress. All in black, kinda beefy but not too overweight, hair slicked back, Germanic features. The actor who played Satan portrayed him as one almost bored with what he is doing, that the temptation of Christ is no big deal. The reason I brought this up, is that Satan again appears in the Garden just before Jesus is turned over to the Romans. Also, there was a claymation-animated story of Jesus that hit the air around the same time. This also has Satan in the Garden with Jesus.

My question, if this is not in Scriptures than where did everyone get this idea that Satan appeared with Jesus in the Garden?