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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
No, he's the whole problem. This movie is not balanced. You think it is because you are Christian and know the whole story. This movie will not minister to the Jews or any nonchristian. If he had cut the violence in half and gave a halfway decent exposition of the resurection it would have been a good movie. The Gospels tell the whole story and do it in a balanced manner. Because they were God breathed. This movie is twisted.
163 posted on 03/05/2004 12:12:41 AM PST by mercy
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To: mercy
Earlier in the thread you were wondering if you could continue to defend the movie in the face of your Jewish wife, Jewish friends and Krauthammer's slam.

Now the movie is "twisted".

You made up your mind in the last hour based on what?

167 posted on 03/05/2004 12:15:36 AM PST by wardaddy (A man better believe in something or he'll fall for anything.)
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To: mercy
This movie will not minister to the Jews or any nonchristian

Where did Mel say that was his intention for the movie?

169 posted on 03/05/2004 12:16:46 AM PST by Texasforever (When democrats attack it is called campaigning)
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To: mercy
If he had cut the violence in half and gave a halfway decent exposition of the resurection it would have been a good movie.

Well the resurrection wasn't played up as much as Protestants commonly do, but it was there. The shroud collapses and Jesus walks out of the tomb, with his visible wounds GONE. What part of "risen again" isn't clear???

171 posted on 03/05/2004 12:17:23 AM PST by drlevy88
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To: mercy
This movie will not minister to the Jews or any nonchristian. If he had cut the violence in half and gave a halfway decent exposition of the resurection it would have been a good movie.

What makes you think being flogged and crucified wasn't violent? Which Jews and non-Christians are unaware that Christians believe Christ was resurrected, and did not understand the final scene in the film when the burial cloth was empty, and Jesus was seen alive?

You don't even make sense. I think you're just being critical for sport.

174 posted on 03/05/2004 12:18:44 AM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet ("Lashing out" at Democrats since 1990.)
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To: mercy
This movie will not minister to the Jews or any nonchristian. If he had cut the violence in half and gave a halfway decent exposition of the resurection it would have been a good movie. The Gospels tell the whole story and do it in a balanced manner. Because they were God breathed. This movie is twisted.

Finance your own movie, or rent "Jesus of Nazareth" by Francisco Zeffirelli, which is quite good.

"The Passion of the Christ" isn't twisted, it's a dramatic retelling of that last twelve hours of the Incarnation of Jesus Christ, based primarily on the Gospels and the Book of Isaiah. It's a violent story.

Where the script deviates from the Scriptures, it doesn't contradict them.

You are stretching hard to find something wrong with this movie.


179 posted on 03/05/2004 12:24:19 AM PST by Sabertooth (Malcontent for Bush - 2004!)
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To: mercy
This movie will not minister to the Jews or any nonchristian

That's hardly Gibson's problem. It belongs to the Jews or any nonchristian. If they don't believe that Jesus was who he is forevermore, then they won't ever be ministered to. That's the cover charge, the price of admission. This is a praise movie.

401 posted on 03/05/2004 6:09:50 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: mercy
The Gospels tell the whole story and do it in a balanced manner. Because they were God breathed. This movie is twisted.

I Thessalonians 2:14-16

14 For you, brethren, are become followers of the churches of God, which are in Judea, in Christ Jesus: for you also have suffered the same things from your own countrymen, even as they have from the Jews:

15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and the prophets, and have persecuted us, and they please not God, and are adversaries to all men;

16 Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sin always: for the wrath of God is come upon them to the end.

Witham - The Jews filled up the measure of their iniquities by the opposition they every where manifested to the religion of Christ. The earliest Fathers of the Church testify that they dispersed people into every nation to blaspheme the name of Christ; and hence sprang the evil fame which Christians bore among the pagans. See the apologies of S. Justin, Tertullian, Origen, etc.

524 posted on 03/05/2004 7:53:48 AM PST by Grigeo
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To: mercy
This movie will not minister to the Jews or any nonchristian.

Um, you are wrong. It will. It has.

537 posted on 03/05/2004 8:07:17 AM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: mercy
This movie will not minister to the Jews or any nonchristian.

That's not true. I found it very uplifting.

895 posted on 03/05/2004 8:09:45 PM PST by TigersEye (Carrying a gun is a social obligation.)
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