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To: Pokey78
Good article. What's perplexing to me lately is how it has been percieved that limitations on freedom of expression (see shock-jocks, firings, Clear Channel, Janet Jackson's boob, for example) are being interpreted as the result of something coming from the Bush White House.

I try to explain to liberals that individual liberties are of high importance to conservatives (see 2nd ammendment, SUV's, low tax rates, etc) whereas liberals place more weight on the collective's liberties (gun control, EPA, education, higher taxes, etc.)

More than a handful of young people are just experiencing what the Patriot Act has in store for them and they don't like it. Warrantless searches of their cars when stopped at a supposed DUI checkpoint, for instance. "Your Papers, Please"- driver's license, registration, and proof of insurance. These fishing expeditions don't fool anyone, especially the younger ones.

These types of things going on around the state are going to cost Bush a lot of votes come November. What fries me, is trying to explain how much worse things would be if a liberal were in charge. I'm at that point of giving up. Haven't yet, but we individuals on the homefront could use some help from DC.

27 posted on 03/04/2004 10:17:29 PM PST by budwiesest (Restore the 2nd ammendment to it's full intent and I'll vote for you. Otherwise......)
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To: budwiesest
Warrantless searches of their cars when stopped at a supposed DUI checkpoint, for instance. "Your Papers, Please"- driver's license, registration, and proof of insurance. These fishing expeditions don't fool anyone, especially the younger ones.

All state issues.

30 posted on 03/04/2004 10:18:53 PM PST by Texasforever (When democrats attack it is called campaigning)
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To: budwiesest
"Haven't yet, but we individuals on the homefront could use some help from DC.
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Just sit around and whistle dixie while waiting on help from DC.
33 posted on 03/04/2004 10:22:45 PM PST by takenoprisoner (illegally posting on an expired tag)
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To: budwiesest
"Good article. What's perplexing to me lately is how it has been percieved that limitations on freedom of expression (see shock-jocks, firings, Clear Channel, Janet Jackson's boob, for example) are being interpreted as the result of something coming from the Bush White House."

Democrats are just as much, if not more responsible. But no one wants to see that. I haven't heard George bush say anything about that sniveling idiot Howard Stern but Stern directs his diatribes against Bush.

And let's take this a step further. Stern only belives in the rule of law and The Constitution where his concerns are met. He claims to belive in the first amendment but ignores the second amendment which for practical purposes protects the first. I guess it's a matter of whose ox is gored.

Off my soap box.

Bart.

45 posted on 03/04/2004 10:36:38 PM PST by blackbart.223
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To: budwiesest
You are confusing federal and state.The Patriot act has nothing to do with being stopped and asked for license and insurance.The young people are misinformed.
99 posted on 03/04/2004 11:45:36 PM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: budwiesest
More than a handful of young people are just experiencing what the Patriot Act has in store for them and they don't like it. Warrantless searches of their cars when stopped at a supposed DUI checkpoint, for instance. "Your Papers, Please"- driver's license, registration, and proof of insurance. These fishing expeditions don't fool anyone, especially the younger ones.

C'mon -- cops have been doing that for a good 20 years. That's now Bush's fault, too?

165 posted on 03/05/2004 9:54:55 PM PST by NYCVirago
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