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"The guys on the usnet "comp.risks" have been complaining about these machines for years. They think the Republicans are pushing electronic machines in order to steal votes."

As a PhD in Comp Sci, and one who has looked at election fraud, I see the risks. They existed in older technology, and they exist here (in different forms in different technologies).

But only leftwing anti-GOP hate-mongers think there is some kind of conspiracy about these machines tied to fraud. As usual, the lefties make an allegation without checking the record. If you recall, it was the *Democrats* demanding we replace all the voting machines because they couldnt operate butterfly ballots. The Democrats demanded we spend millions to update voting machines. They supported and voted for it. The Republicans went along with it but only because if they opposed it, the democrat would have a hue and cry about Florida 2000 all over again.

Now these new machines that the Democrats demanded are a Republican conspiracy? Feh!

There are lots of problems with the new machines. California did badly. One problem has been that simple things like paper records (even paper tape) would be helpful. Problems with backup and not having the source code available for analysis is troublesome.

Just for fun. You might check with some Texas oldtimers about the "voting string" method of cheating.

Now these new machines that the Democrats demanded are a Republican conspiracy? Feh!

Yeah. It's an idiotic charge, but it's based on the usual genius left-wing analysis: the head or CEO or whatever of Diebold is a (R) (or so I hear? i really have no idea..), and so, therefore, Diebold is going to cheat in favor of the (R)s.

It's the same argument, essentially, that they use to "prove" that there's no left-wing bias in the media ("Peter Jennings works for a corporation, and corporations are inherently conservative, thus there can't be left-wing bias..."). Pure genius.