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To: Dr. Frank fan
The two biggest potential avenues for fraud are either overlooked, or willfully ignored.

They are 1) "motor voter", and 2) the laws that allow the mentally deficient, "disabled" (insert whatever term you like, I'll describe what I'm talking about in a moment) to "vote" via "assistants" who "help them vote."

Now, before anyone gets all snippy, here's what I'm talking about. A few years ago, I lived in a town that had a large state facility. The facility changed names every few years, becoming increasingly Orwellian with each succeeding wave (and man, they sure are succeeding!) of Political Correctness. It started out as "The State Home" (itself a euphemism). Later, it was "The Regional Center for Developmental Disabilities". Last I heard, it was "The Center for Human Development".

Nice lofty terms, eh? Sounds almost like a think-tank. In reality, it was quite the opposite. It was the place that the state housed those who were born with the most tragic "disabilities" imaginable. The sort of almost frightening birth defects that society chooses to hide from itself, to pretend do not exist. I'm talking about people who are in a very real sense not "people". People who were born essentially without a brain. Just enough of a brainstem to allow them to breath and maintain basic life support. No cognition, no "speech" -- unless you consider loud, random, gutteral grunts and screeches to be "speech".

Now, here's the kicker.

These people vote!

How on Earth, you might ask, can people without any cerebral tissue manage to vote/i>?

That's a good question. And, as fate would have it, it's a question that's been addressed by the law.

They "vote" by having an "assistant" drive a shortbuss load of them to the polling place, wheel them inside, and then proceed to "assist" them to "vote".

Get the picture yet?

These tragic cases are used as tokens, for unionized state-employed socialworker types to cast votes en masse.

It made it into the local paper -- once -- when someone who saw it happening was outraged, and contacted the rag. As far as I know, that was the end of it. I presume the practice continues, and, I presume it is not restricted to that one community.

In fact I'd be surprised if it's not happening all over the country.

And, I'd be surprised if it's not limited to people afflicted with such dramatically obvious "issues."

I'd be surprised if it's not happening anywhere you've got large numbers of people who are sufficiently "disabled" to be unaware that someone is voting "on their behalf." The profoundly retarded, institutionalized mentally ill, etc.

I don't expect to be surprised.

As to the topic of vote-counting software, anyone who even suggests it's complex code is IMO immediately suspect. Tallying up lists of numbers via simple addition is not even "CS101" level "programming". It's more like, "Introduction to Computers" type stuff.

Now, adding the crypto protection is a bit harder, but it doesn't make the actual tallying any harder.

In short, if Rubin (the "R" in "RSA") is concerned with the black magic going on inside those boxes, then everyone should be concerned.

But, as I said above, there's plenty to be concerned with apart from electronic tallying -- and no one seems very concerned about it. Working up a sweat over potential for fraud over e-voting while disregarding the fraud potential with motor-voter and "assisted voting" is like leaving your lifeboat and climbing back onto the Titanic because you forgot to shut off the faucet in your stateroom.

24 posted on 03/04/2004 6:23:05 PM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Don Joe
But, as I said above, there's plenty to be concerned with apart from electronic tallying -- and no one seems very concerned about it.

Exactly right. The idea of an 'almost-unforgeable' ID card, with some biometric verification, offends the Civil-Liberties purists, but I can't get too excited about it, and it would solve a lot of problems with voter-fraud, terrorists, illegal aliens, identity theft, etc.

I expect to get flamed by the purists, so have my asbestos suit on.

32 posted on 03/04/2004 6:56:52 PM PST by expatpat
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To: Don Joe
Nice post. But you should remember that no one here on FR thinks Motor Voter is a good idea. It's nice to be reminded, however, that it should never have been passed.
33 posted on 03/04/2004 7:18:36 PM PST by GulliverSwift (Keep the <a href="http://www.johnkerry.com/">gigolo</a> out of the White House!)
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To: Don Joe
2) the laws that allow the mentally deficient, "disabled" (insert whatever term you like, I'll describe what I'm talking about in a moment)

I happen to know that you are 100% correct here due to the fact that my aunt works in just such a facility. She told me how she "helps" them vote. (But hey, don't worry, because the people there decide, the social workers "explain" to them what each candidate is about.... ;-)

36 posted on 03/05/2004 8:15:45 AM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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