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The origins of Trader Joe's and why Americans don't drink more wine
NapaNews ^ | February 26, 2004 | PAUL FRANSON

Posted on 03/04/2004 11:47:11 AM PST by Stone Mountain

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To: Stone Mountain
Joe Coloumbe's ancestors came from Normandy to Quebec in 1665 to escape the cold and were surprised to find that area even colder. Their ancestors eventually made their way to warmed climates; Coloumbe lives in Southern California.

I think it should say, "Their descendants eventually made their way to warmed climates; Coloumbe lives in Southern California."

41 posted on 03/04/2004 8:52:14 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: Stone Mountain
Why wine? When u can cry in your beer? Besides suicide is quicker with liquer. Ask ozzy or black sabbath
42 posted on 03/04/2004 8:55:11 PM PST by KingNo155
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To: CatoRenasci
"vinted and bottled by"

I understand that the amount could as much as 25% not from the vinter. Sad!

European standards are much higher in this regard.

I would be interested in hearing info from your cousin ;)

43 posted on 03/05/2004 1:59:04 PM PST by BossLady
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Let's see, if memory serves (it's been a while since I looked at the regulations), in Califoria, wines can be labelled:

"grown, produced, and bottled by" which means the winery had to grow all (or almost all, I think there's a 5% leeway) of the grapes, had to crush the grapes, make the wine, age and blend it, and bottled it. In other words, the winery performed the entire process.

"produced and bottled by" which means that the winery crushed the grapes, made the wine, aged, blended and bottled it. In this situation, the winery may or may not have grown some or most of the grapes, and bought some, most or all of the grapes from other growers. This is probably the most common designation on quality wines.

Below that are three designations you see, but which don't mean much, if anything, legally:

"made and bottled by" which doesn't mean the winery made the wine, or very much of it. The wine was probably purchased from another winery (it could have been surplus, or not up to the other winery's standards, or just not needed for in the blends). By custom, this designation means that the winemaker at the winery whose lable it's under did something to the wine, perhaps blended it.

"vinted and bottled by means just about the same as "made and bottled by" but customarily means the winery did a little (how little?? who knows, it's anyone's guess) less than for "made and bottled by". These are entirely purchased in wines that are blended and finished for sale by the winery or negociant. This is commonly seen on negociant wines sold under a wine merchant's lable, rather than an actually winery's lable.

"cellard and bottled by" legally doesn't mean much less that the "made and bottled by" or "vinted and bottled by", but by custom this reflects the least work by the winery or negociant. It is very common on negociant wines.

Very often, some winerys do not grow enough grapes to meet their needs, or they don't like the quality of their own grapes in a given year or given vineyard, and so they buy grapes from other growers. Sometimes this is done on long term contract, other times on the spot market.

Likewise with freshly made wines. Some wineries will have more than they need (or have room to cellar and age) or particular wines (e.g. a winery that uses merlot to blend with cabernet might have more merlot than it wants for blending, but doesn't want to bottle a varietal merlot), and others will have wines that are perfectly decent ("sound commercial wine" in the trade) but are not up to the winery's standards. Other wineries will need wines of varying quality for their blends or to fill out their lines. And, it bountiful years, there's more wine than anyone wants, sometimes of excellent quanity. To keep prices up, a lot of this wine is sold off to merchants who will act a negociants and create 'house' blends for sale.

44 posted on 03/07/2004 7:14:52 PM PST by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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To: Stone Mountain
Wow! I was just there today after not shopping there for a while. They have the best kippers: they taste better than the ones in the grocery store, the cans are bigger, and they're cheaper. :-)
45 posted on 03/07/2004 7:36:47 PM PST by BlessedBeGod
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‘Two-Buck Chuck’ Wins Wine Competition
North County Times/The Californian | Friday, June 29, 2007
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46 posted on 12/09/2007 10:56:10 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Monday, December 10, 2007____________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Two Buck Chuck is one of the best wines I have ever had.”

My taste in wine always ran to Maddog and Wild Irish Rose, but then I drank for effect.
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