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To: betty boop; rface; Alamo-Girl; marron; logos; xzins; lockeliberty; P-Marlowe; Vernon; restornu
I hate the idea of being driven to such measures by the progressive left which hates America and most Americans. But the fact is, a federal amendment is the only thing that can keep the "Full Faith and Credit" issue from rearing its head at some not far-off time....

Appreciate the thorough treatment, your letter from behind the enemy lines in Massachusetts.

This defensive struggle to maintain America is a bit like fighting cancer, isn't it? One has to work to support the entire immune system, while fighting each perverse spot along the way, with all the tools that don't kill the patient.

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Here's a line from a homosexual poster trying to campaign in IllinoisLeader.com:

"I can only speak with 100% certainty of my OWN life and I knew that I was gay at a very young age, even before I knew what the word was. I knew I felt more attracted to the same sex than the opposite sex.."

Response:

I also knew at a very young age that I had sins of habit and attitude, just different ones. To overcome them one must admit to them, and become renewed (which actually and thoroughly comes from receipt of the forgiving and loving relationship with God which Jesus Christ offers to those who choose to become obedient to Him).

"Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming. Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ."
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If political history, cultural analysis, philosophy, science, and foundational truth are used interchangeably, I think we can be pretty effective. It becomes a combination of shedding light, dispensing heat, and delivering throw-weight.

28 posted on 03/04/2004 7:00:38 PM PST by unspun (The uncontextualized life is not worth living. | I'm not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate.)
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To: unspun; betty boop
Here's the bottom line. We all have to get over the idea that America is a "Christian" country. Sure our country was founded on Biblical principles but those priniciples have been effectively washed away. The real battle is in the Churches. Church discipline needs to be enforced. The State is not the Church. That being the case, if the State wants to allow contracts between persons of the same sex which is covered under the free association clause then I could care aless. What does bother me is so-called Christian Churches allowing gay marriages. These Churches should be treated as apostate and all associations between Bible believing Churches and those Churches must be eliminated. The battle will be for the rights of true Christians to exist in the State. Discrimination is sure to follow. The Churches rights to its own beliefs will be fought. We have seen this already with the Boy Scouts. The battle will be over the Churches right to exist.
29 posted on 03/04/2004 7:45:01 PM PST by lockeliberty (God is not served by human hands as if he had need of us.)
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