[Coeur de Lion]

Definitely a keeper!

[richardtavor]

Excellent piece--it looks like the muff divers of the world are trying to take over!

[Carry_Okie]

Outstanding defense of heterosexual bonding.
I wonder why he omitted child rearing?

[jonno]

bump

[jwalsh07]

Excellent Rabbi, excellent.

[atomicpossum]

If government has no right to define marriage because this will cut people with different preferences out of the 'protections' of marriage, the next step must obviously be polygamy. If three or more people wish to be united with these 'protections', how can marriage not be defined to accomodate them as well? Or will homosexual activists somehow make the case that same-sex couples have this 'civil right,' but 'loving, committed' groups of people do not?

Look for this as the next step, which will then allow marriages of convenience to erupt amongst entire co-ops, designed to be medical insurance/government benefit combines, contractual relationships that will allow those without to 'marry in' to the benefits they wish to obtain. Add to that the fact that marrying an American citizen extends rights to persons from outside the country and you have a legal and social problem eclipsing any that American society has yet seen.

[little jeremiah]

Homosexual Agenda Ping - no time to comment, but this looks like good ammunition.

We need ammunition, and then gumption!

Let me know etc etc.

[L.N. Smithee]

Here's something else: Tom Waddell, former U.S. Olympic athlete (decathalon, Mexico City 1968) and founder of the Gay Games (so named after he lost a court battle with the U.S. Olympic Committee over his plan to call the event the "Gay Olympics") fathered a daughter with Sara Lewinstein, another homosexual athlete, in 1983.

They were married in 1985 and lived together in San Francisco until he died of AIDS two years later. And guess what? No one told them they couldn't get married because they were gay or lesbian.

The law does not say that homosexuals can't get married. It only says they can't marry someone of the same gender. And guess what -- heterosexuals can't marry someone of the same gender either! No discrimination there!

[MarMema]

Well it is according to the press conference I heard this morning on the radio. And wow, what a press conference. The media tore these people up over this. There is something about one commissioner who was left out in the cold about the whole decision, and the media asked why this commissioner had heard about the decision from the press.

Multnomah County will be in violation of the Oregon Constitution if same-sex marriages are not allowed, commissioners said Wednesday morning.

Basic Rights Oregon asked the county about one month ago for a legal opinion on the topic.

After receiving a second opinion, county attorney Agnes Sowle released a written legal opinion that it would be discrimination to deny marriage to same-sex couples.

"Refusal to issue marriage licenses to same sex couples violates Article 1, Section 20, of the Oregon Constitution ... Multnomah County is required to act in accordance with the Constitution," Sowle said.

"Equality of privileges and immunities of citizens. No law shall be passed granting to any citizen or class of citizens privileges, or immunities, which, upon the same terms, shall not equally belong to all citizens," the Oregon Constitution states.

"Same sex couples want their relationships to have the same legal weight as heterosexual relationships -- the right to inherit assets, own their homes jointly, and cover their families with health insurance," Commissioner Lisa Naito said in a written statement.

Some concerns were raised about commissioners skirting public meeting laws. However, Chairwoman Diane Linn said that those laws were followed "to the letter."

Oregon Attorney General Hardy Myers and Oregon Gov. Ted Kulongoski planned to meet to discuss the state's response.

[longtermmemmory]

What people forget is that ALL past prohibitions on marriage were about children. Homosexual marriage is about adult gratification. If homosexuls can marry as adults for gratification, then blood family can do same.

ALL historic prohibitions have been to prevent the production of children. Jewih, mixed race or genetic defect children. (just look at the problems dog breeders have.)

Homosexuals can not escape the fact that marriage is about children. Homosexuals rasing children or normal marriage without children are irrelevant to overall society.

[Tailgunner Joe]

bttt