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To: Guillermo
Good grief, no wonder they blow themselves up!
8 posted on 03/03/2004 5:26:15 AM PST by marty60
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To: marty60; kattracks
"Good grief, no wonder they blow themselves up!"

THEY weren't given the oracles, as the Jews like to boast of themselves, and God only appeared to them ONCE ( http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Gen/Gen016.html#7 - the angel being JESUS.):

oracle -
1) a brief utterance, a divine oracle (doubtless because oracles were generally brief)

a) in the NT, the words or utterances of God

b) of the contents of the Mosaic law

Act 7:35 This Moses whom they refused, saying, Who made thee a ruler and a judge? the same did God send [to be] a ruler and a deliverer BY THE HAND OF THE ANGEL WHICH APPEARED TO HIM IN THE BUSH. http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Exd/23/20.html

Act 7:36 He brought them out, after that he had shewed wonders and signs in the land of Egypt, and in the Red sea, and in the wilderness forty years. http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Act/7/36.html

Act 7:37 This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A PROPHET shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, LIKE UNTO ME; HIM SHALL YE HEAR.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Act/7/37.html

Act 7:38 This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with THE ANGEL which spake to him in the mount Sina, and [with] *** our fathers: who received the lively ORACLES to give unto us: http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Act/7/38.html

Exd 23:20 Behold, I send AN ANGEL before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.

Exd 23:21 Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for MY NAME [IS] IN HIM. http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Exd/23/21.html

JESUS = "JEHOVAH is salvation"

Exd 6:2 And God spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I [am] the LORD:

Exd 6:3 And I APPEARED UNTO ABRAHAM, UNTO ISAAC, AND UNTO JACOB, by [the name of] God Almighty, BUT BY MY NAME JEHOVAH WAS I NOT KNOWN TO THEM. http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Exd/6/3.html

Gen 32:28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more JACOB, BUT ISRAEL: for as a prince hast thou power with GOD and with men, and hast prevailed.

Gen 32:29 And JACOB ASKED [HIM], and said, TELL [ME], I pray thee, THY NAME. And HE SAID, WHEREFORE [IS] IT THAT THOU DOST ASK AFTER MY NAME? AND HE BLESSED HIM THERE.

Gen 32:30 And Jacob called the name of the place PENIEL: FOR I HAVE SEEN GOD FACE TO FACE, AND MY LIFE IS PRESERVED. http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Gen/32/30.html

Exd 33:20 And HE said, Thou canst not see my face: for THERE SHALL NO MAN SEE ME, AND LIVE. http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Exd/33/20.html

Jhn 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared [him]. http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Jhn/1/18.html

Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the FIRSTBORN OF EVERY CREATURE:

Jhn 1:1 IN THE BEGINNING was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Jhn/1/1.html

THE CONTROVERSY OF THE KINGS OF THE EARTH ( http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Psa/Psa002.html#2 )

Deu 21:16 Then it shall be, when he maketh his sons to inherit [that] which he hath, [that] he may not make the son of the BELOVED FIRSTBORN before the SON OF THE HATED, [which is indeed] the firstborn: http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Deu/21/16.html

Deu 21:17 But he shall acknowledge the son of the hated [for] the firstborn, by giving him a double portion of all that he hath: for he [is] the beginning of his strength; the right of the firstborn [is] his. http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Deu/21/17.html

Jhn 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before [it hated] you. http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Jhn/15/18.html

Vatican: ‘The Jews’ were not guilty of the crucifixion, had not been renounced by God, were not under a wandering curse, and their covenantal bond with God endured.”

For a different point of view:

THE REJECTION OF JESUS
http://www.godskingdomministries.org/Birthright/Chapter6/Chapter%206.htm#Absalom:%20Temporary%20Usurper%20of%20Davids%20Throne

Eze 5:12 A third part of thee shall die with the pestilence, and with famine shall they be consumed in the midst of thee: and a third part shall fall by the sword round about thee; and I will scatter a third part into all the winds, and I will draw out a sword after them. http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Eze/5/12.html

See Isaiah 65
http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Isa/Isa065.html

Jer 11:10 They are turned back to the iniquities of their forefathers, which refused to hear my words; and they went after other gods to serve them: THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL AND THE HOUSE OF JUDAH HAVE BROKEN MY COVENANT which I made with their fathers. http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Jer/11/10.html [Having been on the wrong side of a few Jewish lawyers over contract disputes, it always amazes me how so many of them can gloss over this one.]

Amo 7:8 And the LORD said unto me, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A plumbline. Then said the Lord, Behold, I will set a plumbline in the midst of my people Israel: I will not again pass by them any more: http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Amo/7/8.html

Mat 3:10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Mat/3/10.html

CHAPTER 7: The Conflict

http://www.godskingdomministries.org/Birthright/Chapter7/Chapter7.htm

"..The chasm between modern Muslim and Christian teachings with regard to the "deicide/Christ-killer" allegation against the Jews, as well as the overall conception of Jesus, couldn't be wider. Religious leaders, as well as elites in government policy, academia, and the media must begin to discuss this asymmetry candidly, as well as its implications for serious, meaningful interfaith "dialogue" between Jews, Christians, and Muslims..."

Yes! I believe that is just why God compelled Mel to produce 'Passion'.

It is written:

Isa 58:1 Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Isa/Isa058.html#1
http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Isa/58/1.html

Eze 18:31 Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel? http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Eze/18/31.html

Mat 28:8 And they departed quickly from the sepulchre with fear and great joy; and did run to bring his disciples word. 9 And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him. 10 Then said Jesus unto them, Be not afraid: go tell my brethren that they go into Galilee, and there shall they see me. 11 Now when they were going, behold, some of the watch came into the city, and shewed unto the CHIEF PRIESTS all the things that were done. 12 And when they were assembled with THE ELDERS, and had taken counsel, THEY GAVE LARGE MONEY UNTO THE SOLDIERS, 13 Saying, SAY YE, HIS DISCIPLES CAME BY NIGHT, AND STOLE HIM [AWAY' WHILE WE SLEPT. 14 And if this come to the governor's ears, we will persuade him, and secure you. 15 So they took the money, and did as they were taught: AND THIS SAYING IS COMMONLY REPORTED AMONG THE JEWS UNTIL THIS DAY. http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mat/Mat028.html#13 [See also Justin Martyr: Chapter CVIII.-The Resurrection of Christ Did Not Convert the Jews. But THROUGH THE WHOLE WORLD They Have Sent Men to Accuse Christ. http://www.ccel.org/fathers2/ANF-01/anf01-48.htm#P4968_1103965 ]

JESUS IS GOD: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/pentecostal/One-Ch4.htm

I can't WAIT to hear what they have to say about these:

http://www.noahide.com/yeshu.htm
http://www.noahide.com/xmas.htm
http://www.noahide.com/son.htm
http://www.noahide.com/finalwar.htm
9 posted on 03/03/2004 11:13:32 AM PST by Ethan_Allen (Gen. 32:24-32 'man'=Jesus http://www.preteristarchive.com/Jesus_is_Israel/index.html)
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