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Evergreen Couple Portrayed As Anti-Semites Keeps $10 Million Judgment
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Posted on 03/03/2004 12:39:12 AM PST by per loin
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To: Boot Hill
"Yes, but the person making such a statement had best be prepared to be publicly labeled anti-Semitic."Two more questions:
1) But not criminally charged (with a "hate" crime) for holding an unpopular or unattractive opinion?and...
2) Did the Quigleys make their remarks in public or did they make their remarks with expectation of privacy?
To: Proud_texan
It sounds like the ADL went whole-hog to destroy people they viewed as their enemies through smear tactics, using criminally obtained "evidence".
As such, I have a hard time feeling sorry for them.
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posted on
03/03/2004 2:57:51 AM PST
by
VaGunGuy
To: per loin
"The source is clearly identified as:...Jewish News of Greater Phoenix..."
And what? We are just supposed to take you word for that? If you can provide the quotes, then you can provide the link. Where's the link?
And if you had this information all along, why, as the person that originated this thread, why did you wait till now to post those quips and why did you not post it at the top? And by that, I mean post the whole thing and with a link?
--Boot Hill
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posted on
03/03/2004 2:58:19 AM PST
by
Boot Hill
(America: Thy hand will be upon the neck of thine enemies.)
To: Bonaparte
that depends on if they expected their neighbors to tap their phones in violation of the law, doesn't it?
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posted on
03/03/2004 2:58:42 AM PST
by
VaGunGuy
To: VaGunGuy
"Why?"
Work on it. Study it. I'm sure you can figure this out with help.
--Boot Hill
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posted on
03/03/2004 3:00:08 AM PST
by
Boot Hill
(America: Thy hand will be upon the neck of thine enemies.)
To: per loin; goldstategop
Evergreen Couple Portrayed As Anti-Semites Keeps $10 Million JudgmentThat's pretty Jewish of them.
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posted on
03/03/2004 3:00:34 AM PST
by
Lazamataz
(How to turn a 'Basher into a 'Bot: LET THE ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN SUNSET!!!!)
To: VaGunGuy
"Wiretapping in violation of the statute IS criminal."
According to the story is was not criminal till five days after the recording began.
--Boot Hill
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posted on
03/03/2004 3:01:30 AM PST
by
Boot Hill
(America: Thy hand will be upon the neck of thine enemies.)
To: Boot Hill
OMG, beat me with a wet noodle! No thanks. I'd prefer to just have you admit your errors the first time they are pointed out to you, (and thank the one pointing them out to you) rather than first deny the error, and then attempt a smart alec remark.
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posted on
03/03/2004 3:02:00 AM PST
by
per loin
To: VaGunGuy
"The courts unanimously disagree with you...."
It took you 39 posts to figure that out?
--Boot Hill
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posted on
03/03/2004 3:02:26 AM PST
by
Boot Hill
(America: Thy hand will be upon the neck of thine enemies.)
To: Boot Hill
The operative word there being "began"...Notice they didn't say it ENDED before the law took effect, which means it was criminal.
If I sell a drug called qwerty, and they pass a law making qwerty illegal but I continue to keep selling it, doesn't that put me in violation of the law? There's no grandfathering of surreptitious interception of verbal communication...
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posted on
03/03/2004 3:04:33 AM PST
by
VaGunGuy
To: Boot Hill
Hey, bud....YOU'RE the one claiming they were not defamed....just thought I'd point out the obvious to you, since you obviously know better than the trier of fact and the appellate courts...
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posted on
03/03/2004 3:06:04 AM PST
by
VaGunGuy
To: Boot Hill
Google is your friend. Learn to use it.
As to when I came across the quotes, it was after I saw you jumping to unfounded conclusions. I like to check facts before making statements.
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posted on
03/03/2004 3:06:29 AM PST
by
per loin
To: longtermmemmory
Pull up a seat
and have a drink.
You are better off here,
than across the street.That doesn't rhyme.
It reminds me of a greeting card I saw this Valentines Day:
My dear, you are my life,
And of you I always think,
I love you so, my wife,
Like I love the word 'antidisestablishmentarianism"
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posted on
03/03/2004 3:06:40 AM PST
by
Lazamataz
(How to turn a 'Basher into a 'Bot: LET THE ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN SUNSET!!!!)
To: Boot Hill
Boot Hill:"In other words, the Quigley's ARE anti-Semitic and skated on a technicality."
I say so what if they are.
Being anti-semitic isn't grounds to bring charges or sue someone anymore than wearing pink shirts is.
Unless their "anti-semitic" views were acted upon, and caused harm to someone, there is no need for government involvement or courts.
IMO the Quigley's aren't the kind of people I'd go to dinner with, but they were at least defamed by the ADL, at worst harrassed by Jefferson County by being "charged" with a "hate crime". Since when is thought or speech a crime? This isn't freaking Canada.
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posted on
03/03/2004 3:09:45 AM PST
by
American_Centurion
(Daisy-cutters trump a wiretap anytime - Nicole Gelinas)
To: Bonaparte
1) Hate crime laws suck.
But since I've restricted my comments on this thread solely to the verdict in the defamation case, your question is a little irrelevant.
2) Not relevant to the question of defamation.
--Boot Hill
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posted on
03/03/2004 3:11:42 AM PST
by
Boot Hill
(America: Thy hand will be upon the neck of thine enemies.)
To: Boot Hill
Let me put it this way, BH: Do you engage in marital conversation with the expectation that you and your wife are being bugged or wiretapped?
To: per loin
"I'd prefer to just have you admit your errors the first time they are pointed out to you"
And we know this is an error, how? Do you really expect us to just take your word for it, considering your continued refusal to post any link to your "source"?
--Boot Hill
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posted on
03/03/2004 3:14:35 AM PST
by
Boot Hill
(America: Thy hand will be upon the neck of thine enemies.)
To: Boot Hill; per loin; VaGunGuy
I hate all of you.
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posted on
03/03/2004 3:14:55 AM PST
by
Lazamataz
(How to turn a 'Basher into a 'Bot: LET THE ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN SUNSET!!!!)
To: VaGunGuy
"If I sell a drug called qwerty, and they pass a law making qwerty illegal..."
LOL!
--Boot Hill
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posted on
03/03/2004 3:16:41 AM PST
by
Boot Hill
(America: Thy hand will be upon the neck of thine enemies.)
To: VaGunGuy
"...the trier of fact..."...who awarded the Quigleys far more than they sought, an amount that (with interest) comes to roughly 1/3 if ADL's annual operating budget.
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