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Maxine Waters: Bush Official a 'Haiti-Hater'
NewsMax ^ | 3/2/04 | Limbacher

Posted on 03/02/2004 7:49:48 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., charged Monday that Bush Assistant Secretary of State Roger Noriega was a "Haiti hater" who had engineered a "coup d'etat" to depose failed Haitian President Jean-Bertrand Aristide.

"Mr. Noriega at the State Department . . . . he is behind the whole plan," Waters told CNN. "He is known as a Haiti hater and he's in charge of this policy."

The flamboyant one-time head of the Congressional Black Caucus complained that Noriega had a long record of "undermining Haiti, of denying them funding."

Waters said the media hadn't been paying enough attention to Noriega, telling CNN, "You guys ought to find out his history and who he is . . . You really need to dig us up some information here."

She said she personally spoke to both Aristide and his wife on Monday, who told her that he had been driven from power by U.S. diplomats backed by a phalanx of Marine guards.

In a later interview with the Associated Press, Aristide described the group as "white American, white military."

Asked whether she had any reason to doubt Aristide's account, Rep. Waters said she trusted him more than she trusted her own government.

"Listen, I tend to doubt the State Department, and I tend to doubt Mr. Noriega and people who have been in charge of advancing this policy," she told CNN.

"I find that I've been lied to over and over again . . . So I have a lot of questions of my own government at this point."

Bush officials have called the allegation that Aristide was kidnapped "absurd."

Last week, Florida Congresswoman Corrine Brown complained to Mr. Noriega that the Bush administration had "a bunch of white men" running its Haiti policy. When Noriega reminded her that he was a Mexican-American, she responded, "You all look alike to me."

Brown's subsequent apology did little to mollify Texas Rep Henry Bonilla, a key Bush congressional ally of Mexican descent, who is calling for Rep. Brown to resign.

"It is appalling that someone at this level of government would use racist language and not answer for it," Bonilla told the Fort Worth Star-Telegram on Saturday. "If a Republican had made such derogatory, insulting and discriminatory remarks, there would be a firestorm of outrage."



TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fast; gonaives; guyphilippe; haiti; haitian; kerry; louisjodelchamblain; marines; maxine; maxinewaters; metayer; nrlf; rebels
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
This braying ass can be relied upon, without exception, to say the most idiotic thing imaginable. Is she part of Californias hire the mentally handicapped program?
81 posted on 03/02/2004 9:23:00 AM PST by Adrastus
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To: areafiftyone
Wish they would all shut up.
82 posted on 03/02/2004 9:33:23 AM PST by smiley
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To: Warrior Nurse
Somehow Haiti and infrastructure don't go hand in hand. So any government there would be starting from scratch. They have some natural resouces like the Dominican Republic.

According to the CIA World fact book data on Haiti it appears that they have the potential to generate hydroelectricity, as well as some rudimentary textile and light assembly jobs.

But between the drug money corruption, voodoo religion & periodic hurricanes, the odds of it becoming an emerging market in the near future aren't very good.

Even so, I wouldn't discourage American black owned corporations from expanding there in the name of social outreach.

83 posted on 03/02/2004 9:34:15 AM PST by Freebird Forever
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To: wattsmag2
Fifty foot Tidal wave might be more realistic, yes?

Quick, effective. Venezuala is an active earthquake area.
84 posted on 03/02/2004 9:45:51 AM PST by Finalapproach29er (" Permitting homosexuality didn't work out very well for the Roman Empire")
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To: 7.62 x 51mm
I believe she needs to see her proctologist to get a lobotomy?
85 posted on 03/02/2004 9:53:51 AM PST by americanbychoice2
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To: gunnedah
shouldn't that be "The waist is a terrible thing to mind"? :)
86 posted on 03/02/2004 9:56:30 AM PST by americanbychoice2
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To: NativeNewYorker
How evil can they get?

I don't know how evil they can get. It's like the Passion. Just when you think it can't get any worse it does.
87 posted on 03/02/2004 9:56:31 AM PST by johnb838 (Boycott all Hollywood movies besides the Passion during Lent.)
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To: johnb838

The definitive work on govt evil.

88 posted on 03/02/2004 10:02:22 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Don't blame me. I voted for Sharpton.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"If Mr. Aristide wishes to return to Haiti, I think we can arrange that. Perhaps he can return with his good friends Randall Robinson, Maxine Waters, and Jesse Jackson."
"Great idea, but don't exclude Barney! "

Or Charlie (Rangel).
89 posted on 03/02/2004 10:03:05 AM PST by jackibutterfly
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To: johnb838
I KNOW this is from World Net Daily, but this story always stuck in my head. So take it FWIW:

Voodoo and Clinton's fate

Monday, December 14, 1998

Haitian sorcerers claim credit for his victories and defeats

By Joel A. Ruth

© 1998 WorldNetDaily.com

PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti -- In this land where witch doctors carry more clout than conventional PhDs or professional campaign advisers, the average citizen has been provided a mind-boggling explanation for why Bill Clinton so handily beat President George Bush in 1992, triumphed to re-election easily in 1996 and is now facing impeachment.

Acting on the advice of a "houngan" or sorcerer, supplied by then-exiled President Jean-Bertrand Aristide, Clinton did not change his underwear the last week of the 1992 campaign, voodoo practitioners say.

The same houngan also cast a "malediction" on President Bush by manipulating a doll made in the president's image, goes the story. The torment climaxed when the houngan caused Bush's projectile vomit into the lap of the Japanese prime minister as the world press looked on, disgracing him with the public.

Those and other bizarre stories were being told the Haitian people through the Lavalassien, a newspaper published by Aristide's ruling Lavalas party. They were written by the Rev. Gerard Jean-Juste, who was a priest in Aristide's entourage. The Rev. Gerard claimed that Aristide had developed a powerful grip on Clinton's psyche through the power of voodoo.

The appeal and belief of voodoo and witchcraft in this largely illiterate nation cannot be overstated. Surveys have put the number of voodoo adherents as high as 85 percent, even among the educated classes. Houngans are even more important in the Haitian capital than psychiatrists are in Washington, D.C.

Grotesque as they are, the stories about voodoo's role in the 1992 election -- and its influence on Clinton are important because officials at Aristide's National Palace accepted them as factually true. They also help explain why Aristide was able to maintain an emotional grip on the Haitian masses, and why he felt he could repudiate promises to hold fair national elections in return for Clinton's help in regaining control of Haiti.

The voodoo scenario is a classic example of how, in a Third World country, what the general public accepts as truth is often more important than the truth itself.

As told in Lavalassien, in the Haiti Observateur, another popular paper, and in private interviews by participants, Clinton staffers first got the idea of invoking voodoo during conversations with Aristide who was living in exile in Washington, D.C. The aim was to learn what the future held for then candidate Clinton, and to cast spells to help influence the election. In return for what the Rev. Gerard called a "large sum of money," a houngan was retained by the Clinton campaign, the story goes, and a "wanga" or malediction was cast upon Bush to cause his electoral defeat. Clinton, for his part, agreed to wear the same pair of underpants the last week of the campaign.

Both Haitian officials and the Haiti Observateur stated that Clinton reaffirmed his faith in voodoo during his March 31, 1995 visit to the island. The official purpose of the visit as told by the American media was to celebrate Haiti's supposed "return to democracy." However, the Haitian press had a much different story. The headlines of the March 29, 1995 issue of the Haiti Observateur read: " CLINTON ASSISTERA A UNE CEREMONIE VAUDOU EN HAITI" (Clinton to assist in a voodoo ceremony in Haiti). The story, confirmed by Haitian officials, stated that initiating Clinton under the power of voodoo had two purposes -- to render him impervious to the attacks of his Republican enemies in Washington, and to guarantee his re-election. While the initiation could protect Clinton from his political enemies, they say, it could not protect him from himself.

The ceremony was said to have been hidden within a public event touted as a dedication of a monument to Haiti's boat people. The focal point was a "magic well" concealed inside a sculptor's rendition of a brick and concrete boat which was hurriedly constructed for the event in the vicinity of Aristide's residence at Tabarre.

It should be noted that Aristide, a de-frocked priest, earlier in 1995 had renounced the Catholic Church and said he was returning to the voodoo faith of his ancestors. In July of the same year, he held a large voodoo congress at the National Palace attended by over 300 leading houngans and "bocors" (black magicians -- including leaders of the dreaded "Bizango Cult," which practices zombification and human sacrifice)). Upon addressing the first voodoo congress, Aristide proclaimed voodoo to be one of the "great religions of the world alongside Christianity, Islam and Judaism and also announced funding for a national voodoo temple. Both Aristide's renunciation of the Catholic Church and his voodoo congress, while widely publicized in the Haitian press, were completely suppressed in the American news media.

In the days leading up to Clinton's visit, according to sources in Haiti, many occult preparations took place. These were intended not only to grant Clinton the power to overcome the challenges facing his presidency and defeat the Whitewater investigations, but also to give Aristide the power to continue to control Clinton.

One account that circulated in Port-au-Prince is that when Aristide dedicated the "secret well" before Clinton's visit that he "shed the blood of a newborn infant in gratitude to the gods whom he believes allowed his return to power." Whether true or not, this report is widely accepted by the Haitian people as fact.

Thereafter, in the days just before Clinton's arrival, according to the Observateur, the well became the scene of eerie nightly voodoo ceremonies with drums and incantations as the site was further empowered and sanctified.

To maximize the occult forces at work, even the date chosen for Clinton's visit -- March 31 -- was part of an elaborate ritual. The digits are the reverse of "13," which the voodoo calendar considers the most propitious date for casting spells. Thus, the voodoo practitioners say, while Clinton believed that he was coming to the well at Tabarre to sell his soul to Lucifer for power and protection through the initiation of voodoo, he was also the victim of a classic Haitian double-cross.

Several persons close to Aristide stated that they believed that Clinton's will and fate would be permanently at the mercy of "Father Aristide" -- a zombie slave so to speak, who would suffer dire consequences if he ever betrayed his pact with the dark forces invoked at Tabarre.

Since then, Clinton forced Aristide to step down at the end of his term and hold more bogus elections. True to his nature, however, Aristide has continued to rule in secret through his hand-picked surrogate, President Renee Preval. Clinton has, according to the voodoo practitioners, also betrayed his old friend by withholding millions of extra dollars that he promised would follow, an act which has undoubtedly resulted in a Haitian revision of Clinton's original contract at Tabarre.

With Clinton now facing impeachment, the Haitian sorcerers are able, once again, to claim credit for the power of their black magic.

90 posted on 03/02/2004 10:10:06 AM PST by cyncooper ("Maybe they were hoping he'd lose the next Iraqi election")
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To: jackibutterfly
CHARLIE RANGEL For PRESIDENT (of Haiti)

w/ Maxine Waters as Vice President of Haiti

91 posted on 03/02/2004 10:11:27 AM PST by GigaDittos (Bumper sticker: "Vote Democrat, it's easier than getting a job.")
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To: GigaDittos
Hey! You're on a roll! Great thinking!
92 posted on 03/02/2004 10:12:25 AM PST by jackibutterfly
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To: cyncooper
Voo-Doo Economics would work great in Haiti, wouldn't it?
93 posted on 03/02/2004 10:12:46 AM PST by GigaDittos (Bumper sticker: "Vote Democrat, it's easier than getting a job.")
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To: jackibutterfly
AL SHARPTON For SECRETARY OF VOO-DOO AND SPIRITUAL AFFAIRS
or any other type of "affair"
94 posted on 03/02/2004 10:17:29 AM PST by GigaDittos (Bumper sticker: "Vote Democrat, it's easier than getting a job.")
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
She was part of the cabal that put Aristide in, so the fact he is his leaving is her failure. Listen to her and you know that she is a failure and an embarrasment to the US.She ought to apologize for having helped to put Aristide in office.
95 posted on 03/02/2004 10:28:55 AM PST by wilmington2
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To: 2banana
Right after Haiti gained its independence, it turned into a brutal and racist country .... Accordingly, whites were raped and slaughtered wholesale under the rule of Dessalines (ethnic cleansing 101) until not single one was left on the island.

The French deserved it. When it came to brutality and racism, the French merely got repaid in kind. Haiti was as clear a case as you will ever get of a slaveowning aristocracy reaping what is sowed.

96 posted on 03/02/2004 10:30:41 AM PST by sphinx
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Corrine Brown complained to Mr. Noriega that the Bush administration had "a bunch of white men" running its Haiti policy.

I hope Mr. Noriega conveys that sentiment to Condelezza Rice and Colin Powell.

97 posted on 03/02/2004 10:31:51 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Uday and Qusay are ead-day)
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To: sphinx
The French deserved it. When it came to brutality and racism, the French merely got repaid in kind. Haiti was as clear a case as you will ever get of a slaveowning aristocracy reaping what is sowed.

Yea, there is nothing like acting as bad as the way people treated you. All those women and children deserved it. Unfortuneatly, one day the favor will be paid back to all who live by this philosophy...

98 posted on 03/02/2004 10:42:13 AM PST by 2banana
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
With an all black country like Haiti, it would be impossible to have a policy not seen as racist by the Left.
99 posted on 03/02/2004 10:50:09 AM PST by GigaDittos (Bumper sticker: "Vote Democrat, it's easier than getting a job.")
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To: GigaDittos
Of course, regardless of what Bush did or didn't do, he was going to be critized by the Democrats and all the usual suspects in the CBC. Getting Aristede's fool hide out alive and not opening a floodgate of illiterate migrants into the U.S. was probably the best he could have done.

OTOH, if Mr. Aristede wants to return, we should gladly provide transport and let him take his chances.
100 posted on 03/02/2004 10:54:05 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Uday and Qusay are ead-day)
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