[aynrandfreak]

David Duke considers himself an America-lover too. In fact, even the obvious America-haters won't admit they hate America, but they only want to focus on America's flaws (slavery, Indians, etc). That's their whole view of America. And when someone's biggest issue is bringing up the Liberty whenever Israel is mentioned, to me doesn't like Israel. Israel had no motive to hit the Liberty, and they stopped on their own once they realized it wasn't an enemy ship. My experience has taught me that most of those same people that have visceral dilike towards Israel, don't like Jews.

You keep calling yourself an America-lover. I stand by my judgment.

[Mr. K]

David Duke... now there is a blast from the past- whatever happened to him? Last I heard he was back with some racist organization- after repeatedly professing that he renounced his past during his attempt to get elected.

[SJackson]

Given the fact that you selectively quote Washington, without regard to context or his admonitions that existing relationships must be adhered to, aynrandfreak might be on to something.

[Gunslingr3]

Israel had no motive to hit the Liberty, and they stopped on their own once they realized it wasn't an enemy ship.

"So likewise, a passionate attachment of one Nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite Nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest, in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter, without adequate inducement or justification. It leads also to concessions to the favorite Nation of privileges denied to others, which is apt doubly to injure the Nation making the concessions; by unnecessarily parting with what ought to have been retained; and by exciting jealousy, ill-will, and a disposition to retaliate, in the parties from whom equal privileges are withheld. And it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens, (who devote themselves to the favorite nation,) facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country, without odium, sometimes even with popularity; gilding, with the appearances of a virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good, the base or foolish compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation."

Tell me, Aynrandfreak, what has America purchased with the blood of several thousand citizens and the expense of billions of U.S. taxpayer proceeds to be part of the Middle East's wars?