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To: elfman2
Then by your own feelings, Congress' exercising their specifically inumerated power to declare war in an unwise way is not an abuse of power. You need to learn to control your emotions.

Your argument has no meaning. Congress is specifically empowered to levy tariffs. It is not some abstract power, the exercise of which constitutes abuse. If you have trade, you regulate it. If you are attacked, you declare war. By your your simple-minded reasoning, congress would be abusing power if they declared war for any reason. I've just nuked your ill-conceived argument. Sorry, but you're the emotional one here, and you've lost argument.

This reminds me of the end of the worlders crying here that Armageddon was coming at the turn of the millennium.

There it is! The ad hominem attack. No rebuttal, just a slander. The sure sign of a lost argument, in plain view for all lurkers and posters to see. Wheeeee!

No, because of China’s international aggression, all the rules change. A discussion of training dogs can’t be applied to razing a tiger. If you can’t transcend your knee jerk emotionalism to see that, start another tread on China.

Trying to dismiss facts as knee-jerk emotionalism is a poor debating technique. The original article was about outsourcing to "Asia" and "Overseas". Last time I checked, China was both of these. Anyway, From the article: "Several of the largest U.S. IT vendors started building R&D centers in China in 1998. Intel Corp. and Microsoft Corp. have opened facilities in Beijing. Intel has 40 researchers; Microsoft has 200 Ph.D. candidate interns and 170 researchers."

I guess you didn't read the article carefully enough.

121 posted on 03/04/2004 8:30:20 AM PST by Orbiting_Rosie's_Head
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To: Orbiting_Rosie's_Head
"By your your simple-minded reasoning, congress would be abusing power if they declared war for any reason."

Let me make this simple.

1) I said that people (like you) were promoting the abuse of tariffs.
2) You say that since the founding fathers designed Congress with the power to impose tariff, criticism of that abuse power amounts to criticism of the founding fathers. Remember?
3) I pointed out that Congresses could abuse any power, specifically the power to declare war. And just because they were given that power, it does not make any abuse of it justified and any criticism of it a criticism of the founding fathers.

The rest of your post is dependent of that.

This is not an article regarding unique Chinese trade issues.

I don’t have time to continue a discussion based on out of control emotions.

123 posted on 03/04/2004 9:05:57 AM PST by elfman2
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To: Orbiting_Rosie's_Head
(This reminds me of the end of the worlders crying here that Armageddon was coming at the turn of the millennium.) -elfman2
"There it is! The ad hominem attack. No rebuttal, just a slander. The sure sign of a ost argument, in plain view for all lurkers and posters to see. Wheeeee!"

On second thought, I can’t let this one pass… Sorry my last post failed to conform to your previous “high” analysis and discussion like this:
"Nice try, but you look like a blathering fool now."

I’m sure you're “deeply saddened”.

125 posted on 03/04/2004 9:32:42 AM PST by elfman2
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