[Trinity_Tx]

"Vernon Howell was a crazy, child molesting sonofabitch.

That said, the raid was handled by idiots and managed by the criminally negligent. Reno should have been fired and horsewhipped."

Agreed - on both counts. Sometimes I think we get so blind with anger at Reno et al that we give Howell a pass.

And as a mother, I have to say that if I ever became so hyperfocussed on radical fringe religious and political causes that I needlessly put my children's health and safety secondary to them, I'd judge myself worthy of the ultimate in condemnation.

With all the media and lawyers out there, these women (and men IMHO) would have made their cases a heck of a lot more convincingly had they used the system instead of acting like a bunch of fools.

The only innocents in that building were the children.

So, while I condemn Reno et al, it bugs me to see the losers from inside get even a suggestion of a pass.

(I wont cry if you flame me, btw... And I wont get into a fuss over it. That's just my opinion, for whatever it's worth.)

[cyborg]

ditto

[an amused spectator]

So, while I condemn Reno et al, it bugs me to see the losers from inside get even a suggestion of a pass.

Right! And we could prove for sure that it was the losers inside that started the firefight if we analyzed the bullet holes in the metal front doors, and in the abandoned vehicles parked outside! ;-)