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To: SunkenCiv
There is one fundamental point that anyone who writes this kind of stuff (i.e. Islam versus the West) always fails to mention: Islam lives in a vaccuum.

I believe in the premise, first put forward by Daniel Boorstein (The Dicoverers) that Islamic society differs from the Judeo-Christian (and thus, Western) world in one vital ideal, Islam gives the believer NOTHING to look forward to.

Jews await their Messiah and Christians await the return of Christ, and inherent in the belief of a first or second coming it the idea that the believer must strive to leave this world better than he found it. According to Islam, the greatest event that could EVER take place, already has --- Muhammed ascended into heaven. The only thing left to a Muslim is the fulfilment of prophecy in the Koran. That prophecy revolves around bringing the entire world under Islamic law, by any means necesary. Until that prophecy is realized, there can be no peace, ergo, things like history, science and progress are useless, unless they can be adapted to help perpetuate the prophecy.

Therefore, Muslims have no impetus to discover, no need to understand and even smaller motive to think coherently.

One only need remember that the 9/11 hijacker's toolkit (cell phones, credit cards, airliners, flight schools, computers, travel visas, and even the box cutters) were all WESTERN INVENTIONS. 'Nuff said.
60 posted on 03/01/2004 10:28:36 PM PST by Wombat101 (Sanitized for YOUR protection....)
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To: Wombat101
Well said.
70 posted on 03/02/2004 9:21:03 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Sam Kinison said it best when...)
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To: Wombat101

yeah, I see what you mean. Islam divides the world into two parts. The non-Moslem part is "the Domain of War". Similarly, Islam divides time into two parts. The pre-Moslem time is "the Time of Ignorance". Meanwhile, they deny there was any pre-Moslem construction on the Rock in Jerusalem even as they excavate away and then dump as rubbish Roman and other stuff. In India, modern [sic] Moslems denied there was any pre-Moslem religious construction at Ayodhya, where an enraged Hindu group of rioters demolished a mosque, and archaeologists sent by the gov't uncovered the remains of the temple of Ram, an Indian deity. The site was known, and the desecration never forgotten by India's Hindu majority.


75 posted on 07/02/2004 11:28:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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