[Lazamataz]

In my opinion, I have seen way to much suffering from drug addicts to believe it's a choice. Why would someone choose a drug addict's lifestyle, knowing the incredible array of problems facing them?

I can speak to this issue.

When you are not yet addicted, drugs are a LOT of fun.

But when you become addicted, you no longer have a choice. You must do drugs. Consequences no longer matter. Jail, divorce, financial destitution -- none of them deter you.

Now, there is a way out: If you surrender your drug addiction to your Higher Power -- that is, if you realize that you CANNOT FIGHT the addiction, that there is NO WAY for you to beat it -- and if you call on your Higher Power (in my case, G-d) to fight the battle for you, and instead concentrate on using the tools of NA to stay clean JUST THAT MOMENT -- you can beat drug addiction. I have seen countless hundreds of recovering addicts with 13, 17, 25 years clean.

But I digress. The main point is, once addicted, you no longer consider consequences. The only important thing is to get drugs.

[King Prout]

yes, now apply that reasoning to the quibble about homosexuality as choice.

the parallell, in potential at least, is evident.

[webstersII]

"But when you become addicted, you no longer have a choice. You must do drugs. Consequences no longer
matter. Jail, divorce, financial destitution -- none of them deter you."

True. But some people do quit. Others do not.

You can't remove the aspect of desire from this argument. Desire to overcome an addiction has to be paramount before anyone can overcome it. You can't characterize it solely as a biological experience, or else you never would have been able to overcome your addiction, Laz.