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To: goldstategop
We have plenty of "Constitutional Scholars" on FR that act like the Patriot Act has taken away their rights.It is more paranoia than reality.
3 posted on 03/01/2004 2:08:13 AM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: MEG33; Fledermaus; Southack
Well, here's just one example of the kind of pro-Patriot Act stuff I read commonly:

"If delayed notice under Section 213 of the Patriot Act (the Left calls it "sneak-and-peak") is such a threat to civil rights, then Kerry has some explaining to do: It's been around for decades, and it is routinely used in fighting garden-variety crime."

If "It's been around for decades, and it is routinely used...," then just exactly why do we need Section 213, or the Patriot Act at all ??

No one ever answers that fundamental question for me satisfactorily, resolving an apparent dichotomy.

If the Patriot Act changes nothing, then what just is it's utility and purpose ??

Rather than telling me what it didn't change, I need the supporters of the Patriot Act to delineate specifically what it DID change, explain their view of why the Jack-Booted Thugs need these "new" tools, and then provide their view of why their own specific citations DO NOT infringe the rights of citizens ??

I DID NOT say "ordinary" citizens. Jose Padilla, for example, is not an "ordinary citizen," but - he IS a U.S. citizen.

4 posted on 03/01/2004 3:43:34 AM PST by skip2myloo
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