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To: cp124
I know it sounds ridiculous but technically it is accurate to call assembling hamburgers "manufacturing." I mean, if you are going to call other assembly line jobs "manufacturing" such as standing in a bottling plant and putting bottle caps on bottles like in "Laverne and Shirley", then this is manufacturing too. And so is making frozen margaritas or tortilla chips at a Mexican restaurant for that matter.

Yes, I know that bottle caps are now done by machine and that "Laverne and Shirley" were probably laid off around 1967 after which they married Lenny and Squiggly and got divorced and then went on welfare because they were too stupid to get another job doing something else. But I digress. Anyway, in a few short years, fast food places like McDonalds and Burger King will have machines "assembling" our hamburgers as well.

4 posted on 02/29/2004 8:35:19 AM PST by SamAdams76 (Had a "cafe latte" for the very first time and I liked it. Should I be worried?)
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To: SamAdams76
Anyway, in a few short years, fast food places like McDonalds and Burger King will have machines "assembling" our hamburgers as well.

Only if the minimum wage rises to the point where machines are cheaper...

6 posted on 02/29/2004 8:41:53 AM PST by null and void
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To: SamAdams76
My graduate textbook on manufacturing twenty years ago provided several examples of manufacturing locations to teach the different types of manufacturing processes.

One example was a paper factory in Maine (continuous-process workflow).

Another example was a Burger King in Malden, Massachusetts (worker-paced assembly line).

Yet another example was a Jos. Schlitz brewery plant (mixed batch / continuous process).

So this 20-year-old text covers both examples in the article, plus L & S. Pretty conclusive, but it's all semantics anyway. Value added is not necessarily related to type of work. If manufacturing jobs were always "better", doctors would make less than L & S.
9 posted on 02/29/2004 9:08:51 AM PST by You Dirty Rats
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To: SamAdams76
Anyway, in a few short years, fast food places like McDonalds and Burger King will have machines "assembling" our hamburgers as well.

Not so far fetched. Some McDonalds already do this now at the drive inwindow with soft drinks. The order is put into the cash register, the machine is notified by the computer in the register, and the cups run down a conveyor system that fills them with ice, then the appropriate soft drink and puts them at the window for the attendant to hand out. No humans involved except putting the cups and syrup in the machine on the input side and taking the finished product off of the output side to hand to the customer. It's a really neat system, BUT, here is the question: Should the production of the soft drinks by the 'manufacturing' process of the machine be considered manufacturing in the same way as making that machine? Not to my way of thinking.

10 posted on 02/29/2004 9:10:04 AM PST by templar
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To: SamAdams76
I know it sounds ridiculous but technically it is accurate to call assembling hamburgers "manufacturing."

Of course it is. I don’t know what/how McD’s does things, but I’ve done maintenance at another large (regional, at the time) fast food joint. Nobody “prepares” much of anything as it has been pre-prepared.

All the burgers were formed, partially cooked, the frozen and packaged for shipment to the retail locations. All the potatoes were washed, cut, partially fried, broken into fryer-sized portions, bagged and frozen for shipment… same for onion rings, tater tots and everything else. The chili for the hot dogs is already pre-made and canned..

All they do at the restaurant is move a couple of boxes of patties from the freezer to the refrigerator the night before – they’ll be (partially) thawed the next am. They’ll slap a patty on the grill for 100 – 120 seconds, flip it for another 90 seconds or so at which point it will be heated through and properly cooked for consumption – it’s designed to work that way.

They’ll put a fryer basket on the rack, dump a bag of fries in it, dunk the basket, hit a button, and when the buzzer goes off they’re hot and finished cooking. Specifically designed to be done that way to make things idiot-proof and give the customer some degree of consistency across the chain.

You don’t have some kid in back forming patties by hand and cooking them to order. You’ll literally have a production line that does nothing but take ground beef and produces case after case (and pallet after pallet) of frozen, partially cooked patties, etc, designed specifically to be quickly finished at the retail location for consumption. If that does not constitute manufacturing…

In fact, about the only preparation that takes place is using a stainless lunchmeat-type slicer to slice lettuce, onions, tomatoes – that they did do at the individual locations.

11 posted on 02/29/2004 9:11:20 AM PST by Who dat?
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To: SamAdams76
Yes, I know that bottle caps are now done by machine and that "Laverne and Shirley" were probably laid off around 1967 after which they married Lenny and Squiggly.....

I thought Shirley's boyfriend was Carmine, "The Big Ragoo." Did they break up?

12 posted on 02/29/2004 9:13:04 AM PST by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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