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Free trade loses lustre
The Sunday Times ^
| February 29, 2004
Posted on 02/29/2004 1:13:49 AM PST by sarcasm
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To: 1rudeboy
Goo goo gah gah feel better now? Time for beddy bye!
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posted on
02/29/2004 1:43:24 PM PST
by
agitator
(...And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark)
To: agitator
Brilliant. Thanks for the input.
To: hedgetrimmer
Because every "free trade" agreement implemented in the last 30 years has put America at disadvantage, subjugated her to communist nations and has thrown away the rights of US citizens. Incidentally, the article at the top of this thread is from an Australian newspaper, and was likely inspired by the free-trade agreement that Australia signed with the U.S. a couple of weeks ago. Does she fall under your description above?
To: 1rudeboy
Of course, Hugo Chavez is the region's most vocal opponent of FTAA. Good for him!
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posted on
02/29/2004 1:51:46 PM PST
by
A. Pole
(The genocide of Albanians was stopped in its tracks before it began.)
To: A. Pole
There ya' go. But I am a socialist because sarcasm found a NYT editorial that favors free-trade. Am I to presume that your fondness for Mr. Chavez is simply emotional?
To: agitator
Lol. It's no use, most of the free trade lovers are either getting rich from current policies or are being paid to tell us all how wonderful it is.
To: Reaganwuzthebest
An almost flawless ad hominem. Well done.
To: 1rudeboy
Am I to presume that your fondness for Mr. Chavez is simply emotional? If he puts Venezuela first then he is right (both emotionally and rationally). Everyone should be loyal to his homeland. "Free" trade can go back to Hell!
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posted on
02/29/2004 2:04:53 PM PST
by
A. Pole
(The genocide of Albanians was stopped in its tracks before it began.)
To: A. Pole
Wait a minute. If Mr. Chavez is "right (both emotionally and rationally)," then how would you explain hedgetrimmer's attempt to link me to his trade policy? I sense some cognitive dissonance.
To: 1rudeboy
An almost flawless ad hominem. Well done. One can only discuss free trade with its proponents for so long when you all hear are silly platitudes about how opposing it in its current form makes that person a Marxist. It does no such thing and only points up to the desperation free traders are feeling these days over the growing opposition to failed policies.
To: Joe Hadenuf
Now to prove we have learned from those warnings, we must do everything in our power to stop the implementation of the FTAA.
To: Reaganwuzthebest
I would not be true to my "nic" if I let a good ad hominem go lonely. Shouldn't your "nic" be ReaganwuzthebestexceptwhenheproposedafreetradeagreementwithMexicoduringhis1980campaign?
To: 1rudeboy
Like I said, desperation. Reagan was not in favor of free trade of this sort. He constantly talked "fair trade" and did not hesitate to slap tariffs and quotas when need be.
To: Reaganwuzthebest
. . . when you all hear are silly platitudes about how opposing it in its current form makes that person a Marxist. Did you hear that somewhere on this thread?
To: 1rudeboy
Did you hear that somewhere on this thread? Give it time, it always does.
To: agitator
Goo goo gah gah feel better now? Time for beddy bye!
What an insightful, witty retort. You sir, are obviously a master debator.
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posted on
02/29/2004 2:27:11 PM PST
by
Scutter
To: Scutter
That last post was meant for 1rudeboy. Sorry agitator.
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posted on
02/29/2004 2:28:57 PM PST
by
Scutter
To: FITZ
China not have tarrif, China have law that what is to sell in China be made in China...period. That is not tarrif, that is wall.
To: lewislynn
"If they're capable of doing the job(s) why do they need jobs of Americans to "raise their income level"?"What was the average wage in the US in 1960?
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posted on
02/29/2004 3:05:52 PM PST
by
Luis Gonzalez
(Unless the world is made safe for Democracy, Democracy won't be safe in the world.)
To: 1rudeboy; Reaganwuzthebest; hedgetrimmer; A. Pole; RussianConservative; sarcasm; Walkin Man; ...
1rudeboy, this is mainly for you. Can you tell us one place where free trade exists and is profitable as well as beneficial for all sides?
Isn't it true that "free trade" is merely a theory and, much like socialism, has never been successful anywhere on earth? Up till now all we have ever had is regulated trade. What proof do you have that it will work as you and the other free traders claim. So far, we have seen, with the limited implementation of free trade an increase in profits to some here in America and a definite erosion of the middle-class economically. Why sould we believe a theory that has never been applied and, in fact, the opposite has always been successful?
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posted on
02/29/2004 3:06:56 PM PST
by
raybbr
(My 1.4 cents - It used to be 2 cents, but after taxes - you get the idea.)
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